Well no, Hoffa, but that is because we don't think like liberals. Blue fisters don't consider themselves outsiders, even if their membership is nationwide. That is why they conduct "peaceful protests" at the Wisconsin Capitol building, and call themselves concerned local citizens.

This means there is a "nationwide groundswell of support" or other such high-minded noble rationalization going on here. My word for it is hippocrats!

@GearHead -

Is not being able to think liberally similar to the problem of not being able to think fourth dimensionally, like Michael J. Fox in the Back to the Future Trilogy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63KOboifCig

Go with that....you are just as wrong as you were about the recall election.

@lyin' morninmist -

Zerban would have to actually gain an understanding of the issues and come up with a platform, instead of just merely trashing Ryan all the time - do you honestly think he's capable of doing that?

Zerban hasn't proven himself to be capable of doing anything other than trashing Ryan. He brings nothing to the table as far as viable solutions are concerned.

Batter to face reality now than be disappointed later - Zerban is little more than another Tom Barrett and will meet the same fate on November 6th!

ROMNEY/RYAN/THOMPSON 2012!!!

Very intelligent, you must be a union teacher, yes I hear drums.

You sure can write it!

@Spate Cooley -

Please don't encourage him - Patzfahl writes enough trash already as it is!

The empty chair could do a better job of debating Ryan than both Biden and Zerban combined!

@Carolo -

Could you please explain what Zerban's/Obama's/Biden's plan is to keep Medicare and SS from going bankrupt and how he would balance the federal budget.

Don't worry, Hoffa won't be holding his breath waiting for you to respond!

Obama has already said that his plan is nothing more than to continue to kick the can down the road for future generations to deal with. Obama doesn't care and hasn't come up a viable plan of his own - he just wants to be re-elected so can continue to enjoy the perks of being President for another four years on our dime. And Zerban is little more than an Obama parrot.

Romney/Ryan actually have a plan - time to let the adults back in!

ROMNEY/RYAN/THOMPSON 2012!!!

From the Zerban Website

"Medicare is cheaper and better than private health insurance. I oppose efforts to privatize Medicare by voucher, premium support, or other Republican gimmicks. This is a big gift to private health insurance companies at the expense of seniors.

I support keeping the prescription drug donut hole closed and will oppose any efforts to reopen it.

I support comparative effectiveness research and other scientific approaches to allow physicians the information they need to reduce the cost of care while raising the quality.

I support efforts by the Department of Justice (DOJ) and others to fight waste and fraud in the system and support increased sentencing penalties for health care fraud.

I support allowing Medicare to negotiate the cost of prescription drugs. This removes a huge cost Republicans added to the Medicare program in order to appease lobbyists"

During his town hall events he said he also supports a medicare for all system.

I oppose efforts to privatize Social Security and endanger the funds by placing them into the stock market. This benefits large financial interests, not seniors.
I support strengthening Social Security by lifting the cap on taxable income so the program will remain fiscally sound without raising the retirement age, changing COLAs, or otherwise reducing or altering benefits.

More details are on his website.

@Matt -

How will Zerban pay for the Medicare for all program he proposes? Or keep the current program from going bankrupt without changing something? Fighting waste, fraud, and abuse is great, as is permitting the federal government to negotiate the amount that they pay for prescription drugs, but in reality, that just scratches the surface and doesn't really address the fiscal crisis that the Medicare trustee is projecting in the near future.

Also, how would Zerban encourage all the new doctors that would be necessary in a Medicare for all system, while at the same time telling doctors that they would have to work longer hours for less pay under such a system? Would he force them via armed soldiers posted at hospitals? Sounds like a nation bankrupting disaster if you ask Hoffa!

Looks like his only answers in regards to SS are raising taxes and fundamentally transforming the program into a wealth redistribution scheme by forcing the wealthy to pay more money into the system than they'll ever get back out of the system. This goes against the stated intentions and goals of the SS program found within its enabling statute. Oh, and he'll reduce benefits.

So in other words, Zerban is a socialist/communist.

Why not just treat people like adults, instead of like little children, and let people keep, save, and invest their own money for the future?

No thanks on Zerban - Hoffa prefers freedom and choice!

PAUL RYAN 2012!!!

@Carolo,

You are exactly right, but Romney told many lies...

For those that say that Romney won the debate basically they are saying they support a habitual liar...

• Barack Obama: Romney "would turn Medicare into a voucher program." — Mostly True
• Mitt Romney: "On Medicare for current retirees, he's cutting $716 billion from the program." - Half True
• Barack Obama: Says Mitt Romney's plan "calls for a $5 trillion tax cut." - Half True
"(In 2011, the CBO determined that the federal health care law would reduce Medicare outlays by $507 billion between 2012 and 2021. In a more recent estimate released this year, the CBO looked at the years 2013 to 2022 and determined the health care law affected Medicare outlays by $716 billion.

So it’s timing that’s making the cuts bigger, not changes to Medicare. And the cuts are from future spending, not the program’s current budget.

Romney said, "on Medicare for current retirees, (Obama) is cutting $716 billion from the program."

That amount -- $716 billion -- refers to Obamacare’s reductions in Medicare spending over 10 years, primarily paid to insurers and hospitals. But the statement gives the impression that the law takes money already allocated to Medicare away from current recipients.

We rate his statement Half True.)"