Recall Recount Day 9: Wanggaard Net Gain Still 20, Ballot Bags Still an Issue
More than 58,000 votes have been recounted in the much-watched 21st Senate District recall race. Republican Van Wanggaard's net gain remains at 20, leaving Democrat John Lehman up by 814 votes.
Ballot bags continued to be an issue Friday during the recount of ballots in the 21st Senate District recall election.
Democrat John Lehman continues to hold a decisive lead — 814 votes — over Repubilcan Van Wanggaard. At the end of the night June 5, Lehman was declared the winner by 834 votes. Since the recount began on June 20, Wanggaard has picked up 20 votes.
But, as was the case Thursday, questions arose about why some bags containing ballots were unsecure.
As the ninth day of the recount was wrapping up, attorneys from both sides questioned City of Racine Deputy Clerk Donna Deuster about a bag from Ward 12 that was sealed with packing tape. Earlier Friday, Suzanne Matchie, the chief poll inspector from Ward 12, was called to the recount room to to answer questions about why the bag was sealed with tape.
Neither could definitively answer why the bag had been opened or why it was then sealed with packing tape. Deuster confirmed that had she seen it on election night, officials from Ward 12 would have been called down to provide and explanation and document the incident.
Republican attorney Jonathan Strasburg and Todd Farris for the Democrats sparred a little and even got a bit of an earful from one of Racine County Clerk Wendy Christensen's deputies.
On the right, Strasburg and Wanggaard spokesman Justin Phillips say they're concerned with the security of ballots when bags are being discovered with partially opened seals.
"This is the worst ballot security I've seen in 20 years," Strasburg said.
Phillips nodded.
"We didn't have any of these issues in other municipalities," he said. "If it wasn't for the problems in the City of Racine, this recount would have been over yesterday."
On Thursday, it was learned that nine bags containing ballots from the City of Racine were opened and then "double-bagged," or placed in a second bag.
Under Wisconsin's election procedures, after the polls close, election workers remove the voted ballots and place them into a secured container or bag. The bag is secured using a tamper-evident numbered seal,
But Farris says the controversy is much ado about nothing since the tallies are coming out nearly identical to what was reported on election night.
"If the tallies were vastly different, then I'd say we had a problem with tampering, but these delay tactics are prolonging the process," he said. "The problems with the bags are not effecting the outcome so the tampering theory only works if the ballots are changed before they hit the machine."
But one of the Christensen's deputies was having none of it.
"We are very concerned about the condition of these ballot bags, so we want to know why it's happening and keep it from happening again," she said. "The sloppy handling of the ballots is just atrocious."
Farris' comments clearly inflamed Strasburg, who told Patch outside the room that the recount is part of the democratic process.
"Then why have a recount at all? Isn't this about democracy?" he asked."The way the city administered this election makes the Waukesha County clerk look like employee of the year."
Zigmond
4:36 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
The re-count is counting the same stuffed ballots counted on election night. The bags were rejected on election night per protocol, they were returned, put into a single bag with one tag. Remember the Prosser race where any questionable ballots were thrown out? Double standards, we had this race stolen, the Chicago way". If they take those improperly seald ballots out, Van wins.
James R Hoffa
4:42 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Everyday this recount continues, and the more we learn about Lehman's get-out-the-vote tactics, it looks more and more like what happened with Robert Pastrick and the City of East Chicago.
Van should contest the certification of this election in court and request that a re-election be held.
Robert Paulson
4:59 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
As much as I hate to endorse this idea, it may be the only way to ensure a fair election. Too much has happened for anybody to have any faith with the current results.
Greta Mueller
8:29 am on Sunday, July 1, 2012
Heather - that wasn't one of Christensen's deputies - that woman is part of the Board of Canvas. They are the board overseeing this process and, in fact, they have the power to request whatever they want if they have a problem with what they see. I was there - Farris's comments were out of line.
jukap29
11:28 am on Sunday, July 1, 2012
Anyone else see the "cash van" rolling through blaring propaganda? It makes me sick the way the Democrat's take such dirty tactics to the places where people are the most desperate. Its nearly as bad as the swift boat/Republican fear machine back in '04 roiling up the Bible thumpers
Politics in this country have officially devolved into a popularity contest
morninmist
10:42 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
In a day or two we will see if they are more and more stupid or not.
rootriversiren @rootriversiren
WI GOP will have to decide if they want to appeal Wanggaard recount - dragging out loss. Beer & Brat anyone? #wiunion
James R Hoffa
11:52 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
@morninmist -
If Van challenges the certification of this election in court, which Hoffa hopes he does, a re-election should be ordered, just as when similar occurrences played out in the Pastrick re-election campaign of 1999 in the City of East Chicago, as what happened in the City of Racine on June 5, 2012 is that exact situation only on steroids!
morninmist
10:47 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
Van needs to bow out gracefully.
Recount nears end in state Senate recall race
July 2, 2012 12:00 am
http://seiuhcwi.visibli.com/share/QES89m
....Racine County tabulators, who face a deadline today for finishing the recount, weren't expected to seek an extension. If they do finish today, both candidates will have until July 10 to appeal the outcome to a circuit judge. If that doesn't happen, the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board is expected to certify the outcome within a day or so.
Wanggaard's campaign has discussed filing a legal challenge after it was discovered that some voters who registered at the polls failed to sign a so-called supplemental poll list when they also provided their names and addresses. GAB spokesman Reid Magney characterized the error as a clerical oversight by poll workers, and added that state law doesn't specify a procedure for removing the votes of people who didn't sign the list.
"You don't disenfranchise voters by taking their vote away because a poll worker made an administrative error," he said.
James R Hoffa
11:45 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
@morninmist -
Pre-signed ballots being discovered all over the City, a failure by poll workers in the City to properly process same day registrations, ballot bags being tampered with without a proper explanation being offered that preserves the chain of custody, numerous videos taken by poll watchers from within the City showing the mishandling of ballots by poll workers, electioneering at the polls by get-out-the-vote recallers, GOTV vans in the City being photographed with the words 'Cash Money' clearly displayed on their windows next to Dem campaign paraphernalia, over a 500% increase in ballots being cast only in certain City of Racine wards that broke for Lehman by a greater than 40 point margin, … the list of shenanigans is quite literally endless and we continue to learn about new crap daily!
This is Robert Pastrick / City of East Chicago style voter/election fraud on steroids! You'd have to be blind not to see it!
Van needs to challenge the certification of this race in a court of law and request that a re-election with safeguards be conducted. The re-election could be scheduled during the November general election so as to not cost the County any additional taxpayer funds. Equity for all involved demands no less.
morninmist
10:49 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
Meanwhile, GAB has it sights on the WI TeaGOP:
morninmist
10:50 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
See this:
America United @Progress2day
GAB Investigating #WIGOP Recall Groups from Out-of-State 4 Fraud http://bit.ly/O9YGp3 #wiunion #wiright #p2b #wipolitics via @democurmudgeon
James R Hoffa
11:30 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
@morninmist -
Funny how the GAB would supposedly look at the recall Hansen petition with such scrutiny in looking for alleged fraud while not doing the same for the Walker, Kleefisch, and every other recall petition that effected GOP legislators, isn't it? Especially considering that every petition filed from both sides involved the assistance of out-of-state signature collectors. Not to mention that the only case resulting in fraud charges being filed in relation to the recalls thus far originated from a zealous recall Wanggaard / Walker petitioner in Racine County, remember?
But if perpetuating utterly stupid assertions makes you feel better about where you stood in these asinine recalls, please continue - we'll just ignore you as usual.