More devastating news,Pray Pray Pray

please pray for all victims and family members. & pray they catch this SOB

I thought I heard something funny. I live on the backside of that temple.

I feel so bad and will keep these family's in my prayers but gun control laws only keep guns out of good peoples hands. Monsters like this will always find a way to get a weapon. It is very easy to obtain a weapon with out following the laws..

I got news that there are people in the basement and he is still shooting

Maybe we should let the fine police officers stop this and do an investigation before we call this a racist act. The other thing Susan is this: two years ago there was a whack job in Aurora, CO where a gunman went into a church and open fired. You didn't read this story because there was an individual with a conceal/carry permit who stopped the gunman after one person was shot. If anything you should carry a gun as a preventative measure.

I wonder how long it will be until Brian Ross & George Snuffelophalous will say that it was done by a Tea Party member?

apparently all the praying isn't quite cutting it, just saying…

"Another person on the scene told Patch that shortly before noon that there were three or four people inside the temple with games." What??

As this happens The National Rifle Association is endorsing political candidates. How shameful.

Good ole ch 4 breaks for a few inches of snow and yet somehow can't find the time or money to report LIVE on this???????????????

We got routed around, but I never expected that! I'll be praying, this kind of racism/violence is ignorant and terrible...As for the fact that he used a gun, its only an object. Guns don't kill ppl, ppl kill ppl and he could just as easily be using an explosive device, a bow and arrow or a blade...heck he coulda used a sharpened pencil and his fists and caused just as much pain.

Hey Lori maybe that's the real problem here, no real morals or lessons taught to the suspect

John, so the NRA is endorsing candidates. Big deal. Even if every gun was outlawed tomorrow do you think criminals are just going to cave in and give up their guns? Please. That's why they are criminals.

Geez, no wonder there's so much violence. Can't even come here to express condolences or concerns without politics and name calling. God bless everyone involved.

Sad. And the brainwashed will call for the gov to come kill me for my constitutional rights and guns I bought and paid 4. I have no criminal record but I will be treated like a criminal because of fools.

Quit trying to disarm legal, law abiding Americans from protecting themselves. These sick liberals are the root to all America's woes. They constantly make the wrong decision and we are sick of liberals trying to strip legal Americans from their Constitutional rights. These liberals are fascist, and America is sick of liberal tyranny!!!

Ted Fisher should be ashamed...people are hurt or dead and YOU want to turn this into a politcal ploy..SHAME on you, you just show the inhumane Never let a crisis go to waste Chicago politics, I hope you dont speak for too many in your fines state..SHAME ON YOU FISHER

@meg…just stating my opinion, praying doesn't 'FIX' anything, just makes the person praying feel better. I live with an extremely high set of moral standards, and grew up jewish, have not attended any religious service for decades, and have excellent values. Do you think one needs to be taught moral and values in a church? there are good and bad people in churches (have you followed the priest sex scandals?) and there are good and bad people that do not attend church. I'm not interested in fighting with anyone, so if you want to fight with me about it, you will only be fighting with yourself. I didn't even mention what you said, I just said the praying isn't cutting it. Action is what's needed. I really feel we need to look at the differences in how children are raised today, the constant need for violence, and the way children are raised to be desenitized to acts of violence. It can not possibly be good.

:( sad that people want to kill peaceful people. America does love its children that's what I want to protect their children lord knows government doesn't protect nobody it's so funny that people same not 1 word about our government slaughtering millions of people in the name of what? And why? All the reasons for the war in iraq have been proven to be a lie. What about libya? No reason to bomb_on them. Face it people All country is ryan by a pack of wolves. But I'm sure you will just dismiss me and call me a crazy a hole. But remember all who attacked the constitution are traitors to the united states and will be dealt with accordingly. It was all good before 911 right america?. You never paid attention to nothing. Just watched football basketball whatever navigate you all in the lap of the president who is a traitor. And sniffle and cry when you should be mad furious. At the attack on your rights you fools the constitution is the only protection you have against a psychotic government who just got done murdering millions of muslims. These people who were. murdered is very unfortunate. But I ask you this so called american people. Do you weep for the 1. 5,000,000 muslims dead in iraq innocent civilians? How come you're not calling for a gun banned from the government ? Because you are scared of your government. Hypocrites

Guns kill people? People kill people? No, people with guns kill people.

And Ohio doesn't allow legal guns in Churches. How long until it happens here?

Ok, guns don't kill people but neither do pencil-wielding maniacs. Let's admit it: guns facilitate killing. They make it easier and more efficient. They also provide defense against bodily harm and they are a constitutionally protected right. Sure, "guns" don't kill people, but neither do atomic bombs. Just pointing out the "guns don't kill" argument is a red herring. Anyway, this isn't about gun control, this is about nuts with guns. I think we can all agree no one wants homicidal nuts to have guns, but we cant do that with gun legislation. We need to identify unstable homicidal maniacs, regardless of race or creed, and make dangerous weapons (guns, bombs, blades...perhaps even pencils) inaccessible.

Now I'm not a gun owner (yet), but it is our right. Kathy has a point that criminals will be criminals, guns will be had. Although we have a LOT of unregistered weapons on our streets, would be great to get them off.

But concealed-carry cannot be the answer. I'm thinking AMC movie theaters have a no-guns policy and I'm pretty sure that sihk temple has a no-guns sign on it.

All I'm saying is this isn't so much a gun issue as an issue of intolerance, ethnocentrism and a crazy homicidal nut.

What a horrible place to do this--I mean anyone's place of worship is a terrible place to be shot up--since sihk heavily profess nonviolence. Terrible-- if I prayed I would pray for the families touched by this. My thoughts are with you, be strong.

wackos out in force, try channeling some of that energy into compassion for those in harms way.

If they had a gun I could kill that 1 dude with a gun. After I stopped the gunman with a gun should we ban guns? Smh at the stupidity.

Here we go making it another political statement.People were freaking killed by a person with a Gun. Earlier a man went into a hospital and shot his wife in the ICU with a Gun...he wasnt a known Criminal. Guns are an easy way out for people. Can't fight with your fist?...get a gun to protect yourself! It's freaking ridiculous!

America has large number of racists. They are against other human beings. These racists feel inferior to others and their supporters are mentally sick like them. Look at our schools blacks and whites have separate schools. Blacks and whites have separate churches and different Jesus (one white with green eyes and another looks black).

Ignorance and racism go hand in hand. And when people are dissatisfied with their lives, they take it out on the objects of their hatred, instead of looking to the true source of their discontent.

I understand that they were an Indian tribe and probably mistaken for Muslims. You can blame society in general for what is happening. The govt. now tells us what we have to accept as norm, and people just are not buying it. It will get worse before it gets better. When govt. stops telling us what we have to accept or else, then and only then will things take a turn. When we start looking at people as just people and not gay and straight, black and white etc. and the govt quits with making exceptions for the minorities of any kind you may see things get better. Quotas always cause trouble and guess what, it is discrimination at it's highest form and it causes resentment. So good luck America you are buying into their crap, at least some are.

All said, how many people have you heard of being able to "defend" themselves from a person with a gun, with a gun? It does not happen. America IS the wild west. There are no civilized countries in the world that can compare with US gun violence. None! Gary, how many pencil murders were reported last year?

Why do you all think the government is coming to take your guns? What laws have we passed in the last 20 years limiting gun ownership? Which politicians have challenged the 2nd amendment? Obama's not coming after your guns, in fact gun sales have gone up under obama. The rates of gun ownership are INCREASING across the nation and NO ONE is talking serious gun control (a few dems mentioned it for political points after aurora) but nobody's about to talk about amending the constitution.

If you want to control guns because they kill people then you will also have to ban knifes, rope, poisonous liquid, cars an axe or what ever means that if a person wishes to kill. murderers will always find a way.

Nothing you can do to stop crime. Humans have been killing for thousands of years even when there were no such thing as guns. People want a stronger/tougher gun control but people will always find a way to kill for example when alcohol was banned people were able to still find a way to get it. It's sad that people kill due to a different religion or life style . Hate is so strong and causes so Much sadness.

Guns did not kill the our people at 911. Airplane and forks and butterknives and planted bombs did. And yes I was very shaken up and tore up at the attacks on 911. Shortly after the attacks on 911 I started watching our government attack us in the constitution we the people. And they keep attacking us over and over and over again now. trying to demon eyes guns

Conservative Socialism at work.

Our country should pass a law to allow every law abiding adult citizen get trained and carry a concealed weapon (after they pass a psych test)... and of course go after illegal unregistered guns that criminals carry... then you will see a dramatic decrease in crime and a bunch of dead criminals that are already useless to society.

Instead of just feeling for the victims and our community I see comments such as:

Dumb Rube
Idiot
Another democratic parrot. Squawk, squawk....
George Snuffelophalous
mentally sick these liberals
The liberals are the true racist
God bless my GUNS!!!
These liberals are fascist
NRA TEA PARTY RACIST CROWD
lap of the president who is a traitor

Anyone wonder where the hate is??? It is all around us.

Sad. This was once a state/country to be proud of.
May God bless all those that have felt this tragedy.

We see and hear politicians and people in the government who propagate hate against Muslims, blacks, and Asians. This is not the freesom of speech but it is hate crime. When America wake up and starts to isolate those hatemongers in order to bring peace back into our nation.

Well forks killed over 3000 in 911. According to the official 911 commission report. What does a pencil got to do with this conversation? And did not ignore the facts that I have just presented.. and by the way. Pencils don't kill but pins do.

WAIT FOR THE FACTS. SEEMS AS THE ELECTION DRAWS NEAR. MORE AND MORE SHOOTINGS,, IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON? IS IT JUST A ACCIDENT ? I DONT NOT BELIEVE IN ACCIDENTS!

You I lost my friend the president is a traitor he works for the united nations he was inaugurated on national tv. Oh my god. It's not hate to tell the truth.

Please.......Lets not use this a political football for gun control yet. The situation is still ongoing. Your thoughts and prayers should be with the victims and their families.

May the good Lord bless all these people in the Temple May there be a sense of peace that comes over them and hope the gunperson is caught so no one else will be hurt My condolences to all the families and I pray for them

Of course there are other means of murdering people, but promoting guns and gun violence is the American way. It is the culture of people who have access to guns which causes the problem.

I agree with you lee. It is awful fishy and I do not trust the government.

After the police spokesman tells the news agencies not to show heliicopter shots of the police swat action the Oak Creek Chief had to come back and tell them to stop the helicopter shots of the temple. Reminds me of Dirty Laundry by Don Henley.

The politics come from anger and frustration. Todd, you are right. I'm sorry.

They just keep ignoring the fact that thousands were killed by forks. Why are you not crying for the ban of forks?

I'm sorry let us pray.. :(

In America my cigars are more dangerous than the AK 47 , it the second hand smoke.

This so sad. We hardly have enough time to love in 24 hours, where do such people find time to hate? And yes, because of the turbans and long beard some people, ignorant to different cultures mistake Sikhs as Muslims and create such issues. I have lived around Sikhs and they happen to be very peace loving. I am so sad and feel so bad for all those who have felt this tragedy. My prayers are with those who lost their lives and their families and Sikh Community in general.

As Van Morrison sang in one of his songs, " They'll be no religeon here today"

The truth is spot on.

Yes...this is about gun control. How many have to die before you realize that? This does not happen in countries with strong gun control. It's as simple as this factual statistic:
The more guns in a city, country, etc, the more killing by guns there is.
We are losing all respect from the rest of the civilized world because we seem to think we're still in the wild west as other countries have evolved to a more peaceful and intelligent place.

Gun laws need to be changed. BAN ON ALL GUNS........Let the po po use pepper spray. Cowards kill masses of folks like this nut, and the nut in Arizona, and all the nuts in Colorado. No need to respond fooooools, I won't be back to see your useless ranting.

More guns, less crime. Read the book by John R.Lott, Jr. If you had any doubt that gun laws and restrictions dont work. This book will set the facts straight for you. pray for todays victims.

In watching the post I am once again reminded how divided our nation is ... when? are people in America going to see the segregation mentality is failing . We are all Americans it does not matter about political parties, socioeconomic structures or the color or your skin and sexual orientation. WE must bridge the gaps to progress . I am not some tree hugger and we all live our lives the way we see fit. but we must learn tolerance and diversity without our own agenda and judgements . Come together as a People and stand up for each other instead of the infantile bickering.

Until this country starts dealing with the mentally ill, we will continue to have these shootings all over the country periodically. The mentally ill have "rights" to the point that their families, and friends are not allowed to do anything to get them help if they don't want help. If you have a person in your family that is acting weird and your worried about them harming themselves or somebody else, try to get help and your going to be told "there is nothing we can do until they commit a crime". Don't believe me, call your local police and ask them.

That's funny Jim. UK, Canada, Austrailia, etc. all have stricter fun control. All find substantially lower crime rates than the US. By the way, you can buy guns in all of these countries.

we need a new rule get rid of gun stores you can only purchase one at a police station, and get a lic. to carry, no more gun dealers in this country
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Sasha this is the real world, not fantacy island. lets be real here.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families. Guns, racism, politics, a community is in need of prayer and support today. Let's put aside our differences for now.

Why doesn't the news really show the killings of every day Detroit and Chicago which make this look like a walk in the park.

1.) It's very easy to tell the difference if you know anything about these religions.
2.) All Muslims are not terrorists. It's just a small faction of fanatics, just like you saw in Northern Ireland. They were Christians. We don't go around despising Christians because of what some misguided extremest did in Northern Ireland.

If only those poor souls carried, they would at least have a chance. U antigunners will regret when you do need a gun.. idiots. It was the guns that got you freedom and won the many wars. It was the guns that kept your fellow officers and soldiers alive.

I AM A PHYSICIAN OF INDIAN HERITAGE AND I HAVE BEEN A SENIOR PRECEPTOR IN ONE OF THE BUSIEST EMERGENCY ROOMS (BROOKLYN NY).I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS IN MY SHORT MEDICAL CAREER AS AN ER PHYSICIAN
NOW I AM A SUCCESSFUL PHYSICIAN AN A TOWN IN FLORIDA. AN A CRITICAL SPECIALITY.WHETHER IT WAS IN BROOKLYN NY OR A TOWN IN FLORIDA THE ANGUISH ,PAIN AND THE ANXIETY ASSOCIATED WITH THE POTENTIAL LOSS OF NEXT OF KIN CAN BE SEEN AND FELT.I HAVE AND AM TREATING PEOPLE OF ALL RACES,.IT IS INDEED PAINFUL TO WATCH THE SENSELESS KILLINGS IN RECENT TIMES.ALL HUMANS ARE EQUAL AND WHEN YOU ON YOUR DEATH BED IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOUR BACKGROUND IS.
RACE AND GENDER BIAS BESIDES OTHER BIASES ARE DUE TO MISINFORMED AND ILLITERATE GROUPS WHOSE PERCEIVED SUPREMACY TO OTHERS STEMS FROM THEIR OWN INADEQUACIES AND LOW SELF ESTEEM.
ANGER AND HATRED ONLY EXHIBITS SELF DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR.GO TRY REASONING WITH THE FAMILIES IN AURORA AND OAK CREEK.
EVEN IN PATIENTS WHO HAVE BEEN TERMINALLY ILL ,WE FIND IT HARD TO JUSTIFY THE LOSS TO THE NEAR AND DEAR.BTW I WENT TO A CATHOLIC SCHOOL HAD CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS AS VERY CLOSE FRIENDS ,EDUCATED AND TRAINED IN A KOSHER HOSPITAL IN BROOKLYN NY AND BORN A HINDU.BLOOD IS RED AND THE OBITUARY COLUMN DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE.I GUESS WE ALL NEED TO BE CLOSE TO OUR MAKER BEFORE ATTAINING THIS LEVEL OG WISDOM.GOOD LUCK ....R.I.P

What a shame. There are alot of sick people in this world. I can't understand why people have to harass and commit crimes against people of different religions.

I'm gonna safely assume that the shooters mistook 'Sikhs' to be the same as 'Muslims' (not that it makes the act any less appalling) but how anyone can make that mistake is beyond me (especially when the stark distinction between the two has been highlighted time and again post 9/11)....Therefore screw gun control - can we please get mid-western Americans some education please??!! Unawareness of this degree is downright shameful and unacceptable....

Whatever "ST". The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

U Americans are sick and pervert people with no values for other countries and peoples .. You people are urself responsible for ur nations downfall. Its a disgrace.

Both Republican and Democrats are scared like a hell of NRA. You pay the price ... Most of the mass murderers are nice looking/behaving people with no criminal record...

Well said G.RAM

Education is the real problem hear if the shooter was more educated he would of most likely known the difference between Muslim mosque and Sikh temple then again he might of mistaking it for a Jewish temple instead. I am surprised he didn't get his head cut off they usually all have a nice big knife of them.

Toua, police and military obviously should carry guns. If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

So much venom from some of you. Passion for a cause is one thing, vicious condemnation is quite another. Is it any wonder there are hate crimes being committed everywhere? Hate still begins within yourselves and manifests in your actions. Whatever happened to caring for one's fellow man/woman--a sure sign of humanity? I am sorry for these victims in Wisconsin; I am sorry for all of you who have chosen something horrific for humanity as a soapbox for nasty accusations and blame.

This is NOT a gun issue. This is a mental health issue and a hate issue.

Khalsa-
And what Utopian country do you come from? I can hardly wait....

Yep...totally agree!!! Politicians complain but think about it...how many guns do they own???

GUNS DON,T KILL PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE,IF ALL THE GOOD GUYS HAD NO GUNS,IT WOULD BE A FREE FOR ALL THE CRAZYS WIT GUNS,A SMALL TOWN IN MICHIGAN ITS MANDATORY TO HAVE A GUN AN THEY HAVE ONLY HAD ONE MURDER IN 20 YEARS,NEW HAS NO GUNS AN THEY HAVE HAD 20,OOO MURDERS.THIS IS FOR ALL YOU GOODIE 2 SHOES AGAINST GUNS,WHY NOT GO AFTER THE BIG THINGS LIKE THE OBAMA LIBERALS THAT WANT TO TAKE AWAY ALL YOUR FREEDOM AN HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL LIKE COMMUNIST CHINA.....BUY SOME COMMON SENSE.

Shannon :) our founding fathers smile on you...

Jack :) they smile on you as well.

alcohol has killed far more people than guns...

How sad! My heart hurts for the victims and my city...Oak Creek is such a great place to live :( We do not know the shooters motivation, whether he was Sikh himself mad at his own congregration or someone not related, so I think it's too early to even speculate people...As far as gun laws, can we monday morning quarterback later???

There is nothing Ho-hum about the taking of a human life,even if they are not of your race or religion. These people obviously care enough to believe in something bigger then themselves. Iam watching this on TV as well. It seems the finally figured out that 6 were kiiled by this gun-crazed mis-guided person. I do love that they killed him instead of having to parade hi in front of the media like James Holmes was recently.
Even if he livedit does not mean we would have all the answers as to why he did this horrible act. He's dead! So no wasting money on a trial and prison. My heart goes out to the families and friends of these victims.We can still pray for them and prayer might have stopped other shootings since the Dark Knight Rises massacre

Toua god love your hart lol thet smile on u as well :)

what could be the possible cause? Or just done by some crank? what country this religious group belong to?

What should we expect these days, with a president spreading hate and discontent everywhere.

Ron,
And i be it was the guns that kept your great grandpa alive too otherwise you wouldnt be here. You antigunners cry about this because a gun was used. Timothy mcvay didnt use guns to blow half a building in OK. Why arent you guys crying over all those drunk driving accidents? Should alcohol be banned too? Maybe cars should be banned too.. of course i see the difference between civilians, officers and military people owning guns. dont use that against me when you antigunners really just want to ban guns, period.

Sad situation. But once again what stopped this guy was an officer with a GUN . YOU dont stop people who plan to kill with prayer or gun laws. Because the people that fall into this mind set do not care about either. It becomes a mission that must be halted by force. Today despite the unfortunate deaths, a officer ended this threat and was shot while doing so,.Thank god he was there when he was as it ended the shooters mission and life.

For anyone to kill someone just, because of their religion in nonsence, stupid,
and has nothing to do with guns, but peoples mind set! Killing of Sikh's is not new,
but is new in this country. If they had killed with knives or measheda's (please pardon my spelling), which have been used on Sikh's in India, which we don't hear about, would the news media report it? No matter, lives have been loss this day, and we need to pray for the injured, the dead and their families...

Once again, a criminal uses a gun or guns to kill people and the libs start talking about gun control. If outlawing guns were the answer, how does one account for Chicago's very high crime rate? In Chicago it is illegal to own a handgun. Last I heard drugs are illegal in America...yet they appear to be readily available. Stop and think people...maybe the cause is not guns, but rather the violence shown in Hollywood's creations, etc. Or maybe just what has happened to the culture of our Country?

Sikh's are predominantly East Indian. For some of you reading this, that doesn't mean East of the Mississippi.

guess some folk are trying to "restore" "their' "america" one bullet at a time..take note world, this is who "they" are, this is what "they" do..

Miss Davis you are so right..

Judy nice thought.

Truth hurts.. what are u talking about? What Country are you from?

guess some folk are trying to "restore" "their' "america" one bullet at a time..take note world, this is who "they" are, this is what "they" do..

Sad day once again.

When these tragic events occur at the hands of one or more crazy gunman, it is important to make sure that those gunman die promptly at the scene.

What country has not committed atrocities in the world? What country is innocent? You sit back and say this is who we are. As if you want somebody to judd's americans? Yes we have problems yes we are divided at times. What is I look around the rest of the world it's not in very good shape neither. And yes it is terrible that we police the world. But the american people a majority of them are starting to wake up and trying to stop the government who is doing it. Kinda hard when the united nations owns our president.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR SENTIMENTS KHALSA .HOWEVER ITS NOT A NATION THAT PURPORTS AND CONDONES SUCH A HEINOUS AND HATEFUL ACT.ITS INDIVIDUAL TWISTED MISCONCEPTIONS THAT LEAD TO SUCH DASTARDLY ACT.
EVEN IN AUTOCRATIC NATIONS ACTS ARE COMMITTED DUE FEAR OF AUTHORITY AND CERTAINLY AMERICA IS NOT ONE.WHETHER ITS 3000 PEOPLE IN WTC.OR A DOZEN PEOPLE IN AURORA OR OAK CREEK ,OR RECENT MASSACRE OF CHRISTIANS IN EGYPT THE PAIN FOR THE SURVIVING FAMILIES IS UNFATHOMABLE.

What saddens Hoffa even more than the events that transpired, cost many their lives, and forever impacted many families, are the way that some commentators on this board have attempted to politicize this tragedy, just as they did with the tragedy in Aurora, CO.

Hoffa's prayers go out to the victims and their families.

My heart absolutely breaks to see this violence against "the Other" once again. This is a crime against all of us, but especially horrifying since the Sikh community is one of the most peace-loving people.Those who have learned to hate are tragically misled by those with political agendas in their own selfish interests. I hold gun fetishists like the NRA, Islamophobes like Michele Bachmann, gun-happy right-wing 're-aim and re-load" radicals like Sarah Palin, cheer-leading hate-merchants like Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Ann Coulter, and the hacks of Fox News responsible for the nation-wide fear-mongering and race-baiting that leads to this kind of tragedy. How much better off we would be if we chose to live as peace-loving Sikhs, than to continue as this reckless, thoughtless, knee-jerk, armed-to-the-teeth, shoot-first-think-later, gun-worshiping, violent, disturbed, and clueless culture! It's more than time to stand up to the cancerous gun lobby, but for now - prayers, healing thoughts, love, and support for the latest (but not the last) innocent victims of America's dark side.

Alot of you have gotten side tracked and away from the article. For one thing, there isn't enough evidence yet to know what was behind this terrible incident.

Shannon, ask st when was the last time he saw a gun running around fireing at people?? Nope , the gun would need a radical liberal very happy to own it and to fire at the people who are not armed. They want to do it the way Hitler did it.

So now this is fox news sarah palin exedra exedra exedra falt? Wow nothing to do with a gunman? You do realize you just contradicted yourself.

I know what I'm about to say will probably fall on deaf ears here, but I live in one of the largest cities in America where I am a 20 year veteran. Folks, the police cannot be everywhere. The only person who can protect you is you. Learn to use a weapon and carry it. Learn to fight, not just for yourself, but your family. Criminals will always have weapons to hurt you with. They will not follow the rules no matter how much you restrict honest people from having them. If you studied history, you would realize that any time weapons were regulated, it did nothing to protect the citizens and made it easier for a government to impose it's will on the people and millions died (Stalin, Hitler, etc), So learn to protect yourself instead of spewing this, "we need to make ____illegal" and expecting someone else to do what you should do for yourself.

Shame on you people! I am flabbergasted at what I am reading! People were brutally murdered. Their families are grieving, and what do all of you do? Name call and act like 2 year olds! Show some respect!

Tom owen is right... think u for the wise words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX4BzEMEZbM

Probably another ""christian"" who doesn't let a silly little thing like the 10 commandments get in the way of good ""christian"" stupidity. I do so hope they don't keep using the word: "rare" for these seemingly endless episodes of mass murder. Mass murders take place daily in many neighborhoods throughout the country. We don't hear about them because of who they involve. but ignorance is not bliss!

I honestly don't understand all the people on here who are pro-guns. I live in the UK where we have strict gun controls (I wouldn't even be able to tell you the nearest 'Gun shop' is near me without doing an internet search). Yes there are still people here with guns that do horrible things but it is not as frequent and is rarely on a scale like this and the Aurora shooting. In fact I believe we have one of (if not the) lowest gun crime rates in the world. America has now had two major shootings within 2 or so weeks of each other and if I'm honest it wouldn't surprise me if there were more. I'm not saying that our gun control system is perfect but I certainly feel a lot safer here. If there is a shooting incident we do have armed officers that make a rapid response (to whoever commented that 'the cop had a gun' as some sort of pro-gun argument). Whatever your stance on guns over there is, its very clear that the system you have in place in your country clearly isn't working and desperately needs to be re-assessed.

Would someone please explain to me how I can tell a gun enthusiast from a homicidal maniac before he attacks so that I can protect myself in time? All these white guys with their values and little smiles are starting to look the same to me.

Toua,
Where did I say that guns should be banned? It's time for me to confess, I'm Canadian, so here's my rant. This should give you plenty of ammo (no pun intended) to disregard my opinions. And the fact that you will may prove my point.
I'm sitting here watching American news on CNN. I see American gun culture taking its toll on innocent people in your country. Colorado, Wisconsin, wherever. Americans love to believe they are the envy of the world. You may have been at some point in history, but not now and probably never again. You live in fear of crime and violence which drives a sub-economy. As much as this may make you cringe, you are pretty much as much of a socialist country as Canada. Like us, you have socialized police, fire, ems, teachers, etc. so we also have socialized medicine to protect people's health, something Canadians, and most of the world, value as a human right. Call me a socialist if it makes you feel better but I will never go without healthcare.
So what's going on in Wisconsin today? Another example of how many Americans put their head in the sand, afraid to recognize and admit the truth. You have a gun culture problem. Canada had 200 murders in 2011 for the entire country. 20 years ago gun violence was very limited here. American tv, movies, and culture is starting to change all of that. Yes I can buy a gun here, pistol, rifle, shotgun, whatever. Why would I need one?

I have heard India but East India is a new word for me. And where is West India? What connection is there between Indiana and India? Can any SERIOUS person enlighten??

Guns don't kill people its the people who kill people.

If only if all of America had guns then we would all be safe!!!

NOT!!! We would all become like Kentucky. The Hatfields vs the McCoys.

I kinda tried attempting to respond to your question - prolly coz i was appalled at the question than genuinely wanting to explain....but it would take too much effort and time to explain it to you like you were a five year old...

hence allow me to introduce you to Google - I beg of you... please read up!!

And i need to get off this forum right now... the quality of the comments here are causing serious damage to my head!

East Indians are from India aka South Asia. This separates them from Native or West Indians from the Carribbean. East Indians are not from the East part of India.

Linperz - Dude...that comment below SF is in response to you...dont know why the hell it isint posting as a reply to your question!!

Needless to say, it was a horrible act, please pray for these victims.

I thought I walked with my eyes open...today I realized YES I DO. I was just looking the wrong way. My need is to look all directions- seeing all that I can and not to blink. How can one man cause such death...how could he not see life ? Death came to the killer and to the innocents he killed...simply because he lived with his eyes closed. All the killing, hate and certainly his blindness , caused this tragedy. It was not the gun that killed but the hand holding it. May we all walk in whatever light we can.

Didn't take long for the gun lobby trolls to come out and take a tragic event and instead promote their indefensible agenda. It's very predictable and it's very sad.

It is so sad that someone goes in and kills innocent people who are just trying to practice their religious beliefs. My condolences to the families and friends of the victims whose lives will never be the same again. The fact that the gunman was described as a white bald-headed male implies that he was not a Sikh because if he had been, he would have been wearing a turban. One of the best things about this country of ours is that we have freedom of religion and their is a separation of church and state. Our duty is to protect every person's right to worship in their own way. Norway has some of the most restrictive laws on gun control in the world and that didn't prevent one lone gunman from killing many people. Because we can't believe that a sane person could commit these acts, we call them crazy, but how about just calling them evil.

I am also saddened when I read the comments posted here and I see people's remarks where they call each other names and blame either the left or right in this country for this violence. Blame the gunmen who did pepetrated this heinous act . They and only they are responsible!

Typical response from the RW!!

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Hate filled #TeaParty #Republican @BarackObamalies smears Obama with Oak Creek tragedy http://ow.ly/cKzBJ #masen #mapoli #tlot #p2 #tcot

This happened because people will confuse Sikhs for Muslims. I have seen Americans do this all of the time. When I say but they are Sikhs, they will say to me "same thing." I have lived in India, and know very thoroughly about the different denominations there. When I have gone to Sikh food carts in the United States, they will ask me do I want to eat it here, or take it to go. I will say "lets be like the Sikhs, and all dine together." Langar is the Sikh communal kitchen, where everybody dines together. Now we get to mourn together, along with the Sikh community.

Once again Susan, you are wrong. The Democrat majority in the congress where the ones who said you couldn't lock crazy people away, not Reagan and the Republicans. Then when they let all the insane go and they became homeless, the Democrats yelled," look at all the homeless people created under the Reagan Administration."

I don't understand why it makes a difference in this tragedy that someone would mistake Sikhs for Muslims. This would be a tragedy if it happened in mosque too.

Ron. If u are not from the united states did mind your own business.

Tom Owen - I don't think you have a clue of what you're talking about. They are a religion and NOT a race. It was founded about five hundred years ago post the Mughal wars and Sikhs were essentially supposed to be just protectors of society and the one essential way they were distinguished from others was that they kept their hair long. (Google and read up how they evolved into being a separate religion...)

Anyways...the point is their hair is most sacred to them, and for most Sikhs trimming or cutting their hair is out of the question therefore being a BALD Sikh is an impossibility... So Tom.... having an opinion is one thing....vehemently stating inaccurate facts...totally another. Next time, please read up before you do.

Gary, you mean showing compassion and support for Americans who show compassion towards each other. Gary, we are way more alike than not, but if I offended you, I apologize. Gun culture is not a person, it's a state of mind and yes, American gun culture does impact other nations.

Denise Lockwood - Sorry Denis....I don't live in the US. I'm from India and as mentioned above, a Sikh too. I just feel for the community after such a tragic and an unwarrated attack. It's a lovely community, they are so warm and do so much for others across lines of societal demarcations, hence my spirited defence. And some comments here were downright stupid and begging for a response...

And another man told the station, "Nobody's angry here. We're just confused. Was this a random act? Was this directed at us because of the way we look?" The Sikh religion originated in northern India in the early 1500s. Sikh men are identifiable by their beards and turbans, but often confused for Hindus or Muslims. There are roughly 25 million Sikhs in the world, 700,000 of whom live in the United States, according to the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund. .....And state Rep. Mark Honadel, who represents the area, called the attack "craziness."
"Unfortunately, when this type of stuff hits your area, you say to yourself, 'Why?' But in today's society, I don't think there's any place that's free from idiots." http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/05/us/wisconsin-temple-shooting/index.html

The Journal disabled their comments section on this incident for the duration. Not a bad idea.

sad beyond words

Everyone in the comments is arguing. Everyone wants to be heard but no one wants to listen. You aren't going to change anyone's mind so what in the hell is the point? We keep ripping each other's heads off...we all attack each other because we have different beliefs, but deep down we're all the same. We all just want to destroy everyone until there's no one left but people who are just like us...which is stupid. How absolutely boring would the world be if we were all the same? We continue to argue, we are divided in this country when we should be united...and until then, this sh*t will keep happening.

This idiot union member probably thought it was the Mosque.

Dear Sikh Friends, my family just got home from Sunday Mass and we are very sad to hear of this senseless violence against your community. Our prayers are with you in peace and love.
Marshall Thompson
Our Lady of Malibu Catholic Church

It is a sad day in Oak Creek for everyone, no matter their religious beliefs. Please help us to focus on healing and coming together to support each other. Save the politics, etc...for another day. I myself am so sad to see the pain and hurt on our fellow citizens faces on national news as I write this just 2 miles down the road. Focus on what is right for now.....

Can't anyone wait anymore, until police have chance to go to this gunman's home to find evidence of why he may of committed such a horrible act, and for police to talk to some of the killer's family, friends, etc. before exploiting a tragedy such as this, as a means to gin up their base? Seriously, I think we're headed for all out riots, if the political attitude of this country doesn't change soon and everyone GET A GRIP ! Diane

greatest country on earth? hardly…just read all the BS in this thread alone. Sad.

Ron I'm sorry too.. :( I come from a military family. I mean most of my family has fought and died defending the constitution. And when people attack the constitution I take it personal. And the constitution say is we the people have the right.; god given right to bear arms and it shall not be infringed. But I am being a jerk today and I am sorry if I said something rude to you. I respect your opinion. But once again I have said that we have the band everything in the world to stop murder including forks knives everything. Guns are not really the true problem. It's what we do with them.

Don't care much for the rants "for OR against" the NHRA.

It's a shame that potentially a DUMB redneck thinks Sikhs are Muslims. FOR THOSE WHO STILL DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE... NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!

Kinda like confusing the communists vs the true believers of democracy!

Lol

Gary, it's all good my friend. I don't have to be an American to understand the importance of your second amendment right, or the first which allows us to talk as we are today. It's just my opinion but the answer is not banning or taking away guns, but educating your next generation of why he second amendment should be used to preserve and protect rights as it was intended. I don't believe it was ever intended to permit an avenue to infringe on the rights of others and only patience and time will allow things to get better.

God bless all of the victims, families and friends of today's tragedy.

I hope the healing

I'm truly sorry to hear about this tragedy,WTF is wrong with people today.Is this not America,remember, we all were not born here.When it comes down to it we are all people.Just that some people are just plain MEAN,ARROGANT, and RUDE.Just after reading these comments,it is totally ridiculous what people are saying.No one really knows exactly what is going on here,and yet we're ready to bash each other.When is it all going to change.GOD,of ALL people shaking and scratching his head in disbelieve.And I'm not necessarily all that religious,but any SANE person should know right from wrong.Sad,Sad day.

What is wrong with most of you?! I do not know anything about the Sikh religion but know this is not their fault and or the fault of our rights to own firearms. This tragic event is because there are too many "animals" in our society and the only one to blame for this tragedy is the suspect. Out of about 300 comments there are only a small amount of comments sharing their thoughts and prayers with the victims and their families. The true hero and warrior today is the police officer that risked his life, taking multiple shots, disregarding his life, his wife and kids, and fighting through taking multiple shots to shoot and kill this suspect. The community and Sikh people owe this man their lives. This police officer didn't care about their race, their religion, the paycut and benefits he was losing from the public sector vs private sector debates, gun rights, or the great loss his family would experience. He is a hero and executed what all of you ask from him flawlessly. Our police officers are ready to do this daily and get little to no credit. While everyone else hides or runs, he moved toward danger and saved lives. So instead of these political debates from your safe computer, ask yourself what you can do for the police officer, his family, and the victims.

My God.

How true!!

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In America, it's Easier to Get a Gun Than it is to Get Healthcare or Counseling. Yet We Wonder Why This Keeps Happening. #templeshooting #p2

J.R.H.,you are such a funny wise guy,humor is a very,very good thing.I don,t know but maybe a little too soon.I know, you just couldn't help yourself,take care.

I turned on 620 WTMJ in my car around 5:00 PM and they had someone at the scene who was explaining the Sikh faith and commented that it had nothing to do with Muslims but were sometimes mistaken for them...HE THAN SAYS "I hope this wasn't a case of misguided patriotism" "MISGUIDED PATRIOTISM"! So if this was a Muslim place of worship I guess WTMJ thinks it would have been an act of patriotism! WTMJ is a disgrace!

The article said the shooter was a white male, but failed to mention he was most likely a conservative Christian. All the while whinny Christians in some states want to pass laws that gives them time to pray legally at everyone else's expenses because they say Christians are being attacked so much in the USA especially since Obama became president it seems, and when Clinton was president, this seemed to be a problem, oh and I almost forgot, when Carter was president the same thing happened too.

For those of you who would like to learn more, accurate information on Sikhism, check this out and please pass on. http://www.saldef.org/learn-about-sikhs/

@Shakes Head-I seriously doubt you live in Australia because here are the facts from Australia since they banned guns: armed Robberies are UP 69%, assaults Involving Guns are UP 28%, gun Murders are UP 19% and home invasions-a crime for which Australia didn't even have laws before the gun ban because it never happened–are UP 21%.

What you anti-gun people don't realize is that the answer to this is MORE GUNS. More guns=less crime. Here are some facts to check out before you start calling for gun bans. And Chris, we're protecting a right that doesn't exist? I thought it was the "right" to keep and bear arms? And it wasn't about hunting or target practice. It was to be used as a last resort against a tyrannical government. Gun Owners of America, cites statistics indicating guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense, or around 80 times a day. This includes 200,000 women a year using guns to defend themselves against sexual abuse. As a matter of fact, as of 2008, armed citizens killed more violent bad guys than the police (1,527 vs. 606). Even the anti-gun Clinton White House had to admit that guns were used more to prevent crimes than to commit them. Statistics from the recent past show states that passed concealed carry reduced their murder rate by 8.5%, rapes by 5% and robbery by 3%. Homicide rates are at a historical low and mass killings are a statistical anomaly. These are the inconvenient facts you seem to forget.

Yes it is in bible. Jesus told his apostles to go sale everything they had and go buy swords. They did so and they were all armed. Don't you remember? Or have you even read the bible? Don't you remember when peter the apostle cut of the ear of the roman guard? Every man no matter what color or rice has the right to defend themselves.

Nice info Andy :)

I'm sure you meant no disrespect.I've read many,not all of your comments,to know enough you are not a cruel person.Please excuse me but on a side note,do you know of any good probono laywers?Sorry folks.

This report is off thear was 4 gunman dressed in black.

Dirk. It's an all 4 gospels I'll look it up for yourself. In fact don't read the bible study it stop listening to your sunday school teachers. That's the problem with this country today they have no kind of education except a government issued education. Which is obviously a failure go look up the statistics. I read the koran. And have studied I have read the bible and have studied for over 14 years. They both declare man's right to defend itself what would you do if you have a girlfriend what is I doubt you do cuz I can tell you have no balls but what will you do when your girlfriend is attacked or possibly in a situation that man is in front of you trying to rape her will you ask him to stop nicely? This this conversation is pointless you are just trying to make me mad you're a smart alec and ignorant want that. You can thank guns soldiers and patriots who died for your freedom. But then again you probably an ungrateful little punk.

Wow, what's really depressing are the majority of peabrain comments here. Outside of being misinformed, the grammar reiterates this general IQ level of our American Idol demographic. Now our parasitic national and local media will over-analyze something nobody will ever have control of. Random violence.

Big words lol but you have said nothing..

As a Sikh myself, I don't get it. I've never heard of Sikhs perpetrating any crimes against any American so I don't know where this hatred could be coming from except from pure ignorance and fear. I don't blame it on guns or righties or lefties. I'm just sad that this happened. I'm worried about the future of my children and whether or not they will ever feel safe. Sometimes I worry about my father who does wear the turban and it breaks my heart everyday when things like this happen. Post 9-11 was the worst , absolute worst. Despite not being involved or even knowing who Osama was, I was hated along with my own family. At that time we were the only Indian family living in that neighbourhood. I no longer felt safe and we moved. But how many more people will suffer like this? I thought this was the country of the free. I was born here. I love my country and my parents who left India during a time of war also love this country. I cannot fathom why someone would do this. I don't hate Muslims either. I know many Sikhs stay away from Muslims because of this increasing ignorance due to differentiating the 2 faiths. But that's NOT the answer. A lot of comments I've come across say things like "They probably thought they were Muslims". But I ask you , is a Muslim not a human being? I'm tired of fear and ignorance fuelling hatred in the country. I cry for the state of this country and what it's become. I don't hate anyone for what's happened but I do know it was fuelled by hatred.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIan9GvvSTo&feature=youtube_gdata_player. This isn't I witness it's a s her brother in law. Was at the church and there were multiple shootings not just 1 gunman. So this is clear proof. It was just not 1 man. Also there is other witnesses that's a nice all men in black shooting at least 4. Go look it up.

Yet Again here is more proof that there was several gun and not just 1 person. This was not a random person attacking worshippers this was a hit and organize hit.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zred_VwBtOg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I rest my case.....

Thoughts and prayers with the community as they deal with these tragic events.

Seems to me that Sikh's, Muslims and Hindu's better start using the Second Amendment and should start arming themselves and applying for concealed weapons permits.

Certainly Ted Nugent will play a concert to raise money for them to purchase guns apply for the concealed weapons permits!

@Amrita

Amen.

For the rest of you making this about partisan political taking points, shame on you. Innocent people died and were injured today trying to peacefully worship.

As a liberal leaning person, I'm saying this to BOTH liberals and conservatives making political comments here on this article page... You're all schmucks.

May the people killed today rest in peace and may the individuals injured have a full and speedy recovery.

I live only 2 miles away from there. My best friend goes there every Sunday, I dunno if she's ok, I called and no ones answered, other than there's no way to get ahold of her. I hope she's ok.

Why is this incident being classified as Domestic Terrorism?

The Feds lost control of the Colorado shooting because the Aurora locals were in charge of the investigation too long. They are not going to let that happen this time. No more mistakes with the Obama template. The information that is released on Monday will be controlled in DC. Never let a crisis go to waste.

It's not what's wrong with humans, it's what's wrong with the male population! Very rarely do women go on shooting sprees. It's always boys and men. What's with that!

It's not what's wrong with humans, it's what's wrong with the male population! Very rarely do women go on shooting sprees. It's always boys and men. What's with that!

Sikh Temple shooting witness reactions - Oak Creek, Wisconsin. At least four people have been reported injured in the mass shooting and no suspect has been identified. Hospitals in the area were told to be ready for up to 20 shooting victims, according to police radio reports. Check out the people are so scared of their families inside.
http://liveoncampus.com/wire/show/3390934

It is really disturbing to read this piece of news, not because I am a Sikh too, but in general. I really want to thank the police officers who intervened and their quick action and selfless service help contain the horrible situation and bring it under control. If it were not for them, the brave American cops, this incident would have been even more worse than it is already, now. I really wish them a speedy recovery, a BIG thanks from the Sikh community, and condolence to the member of the families who had to see this event and to them who would have to live with it from now on. I wish people were more understanding of us as we meant NO harm to anyone, not humans, not animals and not even the environment.

My heart and prayers go out to the Sikh community and families, friends and colleagues at the Oak Creek Police Department. The senselessness of these killings is beyond my understanding. I hope that the Sikh community does not lose their faith, as we need more peace loving people in this society.

My faith in people is being tested by the comments on this page. The politicization of this tragedy started before the police secured the scene. And the demonization, stereotypes and hate disguised as snarky humor is disturbing and concerning, to say the least.

I can't say for sure why these terrible acts were committed today, but I do know that over the past several weeks numerous death threats have been leveled at Amardeep Kaleka and his family regarding the content of the upcoming documentary 'Sirius' (sirius.neverendinglight.com).

I don't think its a coincidence that he was present at the shooting, and his father was wounded, and I find it very suspicious that eyewitness accounts and the official police account of the number of shooters differ considerably.

As a human being, I grieve at this senseless loss of human lives. Staying in faraway country - India, I have always been amused by the so called Gun Culture, prevailing in the United States. Some queries/observations here :

* Didn't President Eisenhowever warn the average American & the World about the Military-Industrial Complex way back in the 1950's. In a way, isn't the easy access to Guns in your country, a the trickle down effect of this complex ?

* Shouldn't America have cracked down on its Gun Culture, once President Kennedy was Shot ?

* Why does an average American feel safe only when he has access to multiple fire arms? Nowhere in the world, are people so brain washed into linking Guns with Liberty & individual freedom.

* Hasn't the freedom to hunt & own shooting rifles, now degenerated into a problem of plenty ? It appears that an average American is now highly addicted to Guns/Fireams. The Notion of 'More is merrier' ( with regards to firearms ) is firmly set inside his pysche.

* Lastly, why don't the victims/family members of such mindless shooting incidents across the Nation, just organize & group themselves together. They can easily offer a counter point to lobby groups like National Rifle Association etc.

Tea Party already claiming this was a part of a conspiracy to take their guns away, just like they did about the Aurora shooting. It's all a part of Obana's plot to take over America! Of course, for this crowd, everything is a conspiracy to take their guns away, half the country are "hippy liberals," all news sources but Fox are biased, and a four percent raise in taxes on incomes above $250,000 is communism.

I suspect this is the first time they have heard of Skihism, a religion with about 70% more people than Judaism, though you would never know it in the U.S. Sikhs in NYC where I live have been suffering abuse and attacks ever since 9/11. The horrible irony is that they are among the most peaceful people on the planet.

I am concerned with the fact that the community church leaders didn't step up to the plate and with the absence of a vigil in the community. Also the lack of info apparently shared with the members of the church and families of the victems. They should not have had to ask the press what was going on and when they would be allowed to pray in their church. One man interviewed didn't know where his father reportedly shot was. In the most recent Colorado mass shooting the shooter was reportedly on mind altering drugs. I won't be surprised to learn the same about the mental condition and drug treatment of this shooter. Where was Chief Edwards? We are a violent society, take away the guns and other weapons will be used, The shiks in Oak Creek have lived in harmony in the community and need to know that the other ethnic residents are as horrified by this incident as they.

Wade Michael Page is the name CBS and CNN are reporting. Anyone run across the guy?

It's also being reported that Page may have been a white supremacist. If that's the case, then this is home-grown terrorism.

Waheguru shukar kare
Bole so nihal sat shri akal.

Its soo sad news for us just pray for them....

Hmmm, wonder why the Fort Hood shooting was not a terrorist shooting.....

Here is Wade's photo on his bands Myspace. http://www.myspace.com/endapathyband/photos/50572779#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A48750181%7D

Breaking News: Gunman Arrives at Mosque, Realizes Muslims Worship Fridays....... Just joking, but It's probably true since this guy is too dumb to read up on a wiki post or something. My community dodged a bullet, but still feel shocked about this.

We are less than a mile from this terrible tragedy. What should be a time of mourning and healing is now being turned into a political agenda, and NRA debate. I am so irritated about the selfish, and idiotic comments on the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and Oak Creek Patch websites. This has nothing to do with politics or gun control, this has to do with parent's raising their children to be ignorant and racist. Our whole city has been shaken up by this act of terrorism, and now is the time we need to be supporting each other, not using it for personal agenda's.

Thank you, Oak Creek Patch journalists, for providing not only coverage of this terrible event, but giving background on the Sikh community in Oak Creek to educate people.
Sadly, some of the comments are not up to those standards.
@jarent75--i think your post is respectful and raises some important points. but i have to disagree with you about 'some people' making this politics. as you yourself call this act 'terrorism'--that admits, it IS already political. it is about how the mass media in the U.S. perpetuating ignorance and racism. parents--and i am one--struggle to educate our children NOT to become enamored of violence in this society, in which violence is glamorized and guns (all kinds! semi-automatics!) are considered to be a 'right.' why did the shooter pick the Sikh temple? his politics, whatever they were. his beliefs about whose lives are worth something or not. that is politics, sorry.
Though i disagree with your analysis, i do support your saying this should be a time of mourning and healing. i will be contributing to the victims' fund, to help the worshipers and police, and i hope all who can afford to will do the same.

You are correct and I agree with you on the "politics", what I should have specified, was the one's who are making it a conservative and liberal issue in the comments. I am more or less annoyed by the lack of respect of some of the posters. It just seems petty and selfish to always turn something tragic into a right-wing, left-wing or NRA issue. The focus should be on how to help the victims and their families at this time, how to turn this negative situation into one that could teach positive things to our community and children. I will also be contributing to the victim's fund and bringing my children to the vigil planned for tomorrow night.

Air India Flight 182 was an Air India flight operating on the Montreal–London–Delhi route. On 23 June 1985, the aircraft operating on the route— a Boeing 747-237B (c/n 21473/330, reg VT-EFO) named after Emperor Kanishka— was blown up by a bomb at an altitude of 31,000 feet (9,400 m), and crashed into the Atlantic Ocean while in Irish airspace.

Canadian law enforcement determined that the main suspects in the bombing were members of the Sikh militant group Babbar Khalsa and other related groups based in Canada.

My prayers to all familys

I was concerned with T. Carlson, FBI's comments that they would find out what happened and prevent it in the future. NOT VERBATIUM. The community as a whole is upset. How could we have protected the weakest amoung us? On the other hand arent we all weak in the house of God? I'm also concerned that we don't know which OC Officer killed the shooter. Why is this information being with held?

My friends ok, she was just scared and went downstairs and hid. @vocal local 1- I don't know why they won't release this information. I wish they would, so we'd know who to thank for killing this horrible man. The Sikhs did nothing to us, why do some people have the need to hurt them!!

unofficially, rumor is that OCPD officer Sam Lende shot the perp. Sam did the right thing in my book. A fellow officer was down and he stopped the gunman from possibly killing more.

Which of These 2 Home Invasions Would Be You? http://www.frontsight.com/video/lastchance.asp?vid=2

He lives in my dads neighborhood! When I go over on Thursday I will have to thank him if he's home.

It is really sad that so many people are argueing on here about beliefs and relligion. Maybe you all should look at the Sikh people involved in this horrific event. Are they spewing anger, hate, are they saying their relligion is better than anyone elses, are they showing any kind of dislike for any other race???? No they are not. So why are any of you. I for one admire them for their strength and peacefulness amongst all their pain and misunderstanding of this event. Everyone should be praying for these people no matter what your relligion is and for the officers who risked their lives. Truly sad that this is just bringing on more hate, more anger when we should all be coming together to help eachother and comfort eachother

April, discourse is good as it brings about enlightenment and progress. As I floated about the city yesterday I didn't hear any contempt. The majority of residents always have been respectful of the beliefs of others as evidenced by the variety of churches/temples here. What I did hear was concern for the Shiks a disbelief that the incident happened here, praise for OCPD officers and need to know exactly what happened. I remind all: the perp wasn't a Wisconsinite. I for one want to know more about his involvement with the US military PSYOP'S. Whats really going on? Reportedly, were losing one troop per day to sucide. What is the military doing to the psychological well being of the nations protective force?

I think that killing people congregated at a church or theater, is just a typical action not only owned by muslim suicide terrorists, but by White American Racists who like WAR.