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Wasn't 4 Mile Road Supposed To Be Open By Now?

Wasn't 4 Mile Road supposed to be open by now? Well... sort of...

 

The 4 Mile Road project is needed to alleviate increased train traffic, but the solution—building a bridge over Four Mile Road—has been a pain for area residents.

Here's the latest:

Cars backed up at the 4 Mile Road railroad crossing have in the past blocked traffic on Douglas Avenue. We Energies expects between two and four trains, each with 150 to 180 cars, coming through that crossing in a 24-hour period. The 4 Mile Road project is putting in a bridge so the trains can go over the road without blocking traffic. 

The Village closed the road in October 2011 and anticipated completing the projec this month. But that's not going to happen. 

At Tuesday's board meeting Village Engineer Mike Hayek explained why the project is taking six months longer than anticipated. He said they are making progress and the road should open in July 2013.

UGH!

Related Topics: Four Mile Road and Four Mile Road Underpass

Fiona M

12:00 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

If you add up the time each commuter *might* have to spend a few minutes waiting for a train to pass vs the incredible inconvenience the construction project has been for so many months, this just doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to just post the train schedule so commuters could plan their route accordingly??

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Gene Pagel

4:01 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

yeah, trains are always on time! get real.

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Connie

6:53 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

May I just say , How much thought was given to this "road work"? Wouldn't it have made more sense to build an over pass curving toward the North & West & through the farm field ? rather than try to dig out under the road & build an underpass? Seriously diverting traffic up , over & around..

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Caledonia Retiree

7:48 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Since they can't even put in a railroad bridge in a timely manner imagine that proposed reconstruction of Highway 38!! Fortunately, the State has backed off on their goofy plan to re-route the highway along Five Mile Road. Next up-the Highway 11 rebuild which will be ANOTHER major headache. Luckily, it won't happen for a few more years!!

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Tansandy

8:49 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

Don't lay the blame for this one on the WDOT. Aunt Bea, Goober, and Barney from Caledonia decided that they would save a ton of money (yeah right) and do the consulting of the project on their own. Having dealt with projects involving any railroad, doing work with them is a totally different animal. The engineering dept was over their head from the start. And no, the Hwy 38 reconstruction will be run by the professionals, hopefully not the Village.

Mike Fischer

7:32 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

Roads need to be rebuilt occassionally. It's a fact of life. And I seem to recall that the overpass ran into unforseen problems with soil type, causing the initial round of delays. Sometimes things take longer than expected. It's frustrating, sure, but such is life!

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Dennis Gehrke

8:27 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

Much too kind @mike Fischer. I have called for it before and will again. Someone seriously cannot do their job competently. Whoever that person is, they should be fired. Period. It would not be tolerated in the private sector. The public should not have to have such incompetence in place for such a locally huge project. We pay taxes to hire competent people. people who foresee problems before they occur. people who understand their job is for the public at-large. I really don't care about excuses, problems happen. Contingency plans are those laid out by competent people. Excuses are for those not intelligent enough to have a plan b or plan c.

Sandy

8:53 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

I believe the biggest problem that this project was trying to fix was that of the timeliness of emergency vehicles getting from east of the tracks to west of the tracks. Emergencies don't check train schedule and peoples lives were on the line here.
I thought it was reported that there was also a few more problems that couldn't have been predicted that have also caused major delays. I'm not saying everyone is without fault, just that things cannot always be planned for 100%.

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Tansandy

11:55 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

What about the timeliness of emergency vehicles at 3 Mile rd, Layard Ave, Goold St, Yout St, Rapids Dr, Etc. I could go on and on. None of these crossings needed an underpass. Lets be honest, at the time Queen Greenfield couldn't stop the Oak Creek Plant expansion (Even though she spent thousands of Village tax dollars in a lawsuit to stop it), so she did the next thing she could to get back at WE. She held them hostage for an underpass at 6 Mile and at 4 Mile Rd. So you see, we are still living with the sins of that incompetent administration.

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Sandy

10:46 am on Monday, December 10, 2012

I wasn't the one contending for the bridge, I thought it was a waste of money. It was several others who were saying this would alleviate the problem with the crossings at 4 mile, 3 mile, etal. I can see their point but I don't think there were any official public records to state how many times this actually occurred to substantiate and back up what they were contending. It seemed to me it was just some angry commuters that didn't want to sit and wait for the train. I thought it would have been a better idea to do the bridge at 3 mile since the firehouse was right next to 5 mile and could just go down to 31 and back up 4 mile to old green bay road. 3 Mile is a longer way from emergency services.
As far as the underpass on 6 mile, wasn't that done awhile ago? That I could understand if there were trains sitting there because there really is no other feasible way around the train if you live in Crestview unless you go all the way down to middle road.
But in the grand scheme of things....what do I know? lol

Mike Fischer

12:11 pm on Thursday, December 6, 2012

Tell me again how village government can stop development in a neighboring city in a different county? As for the overpasses - I live east of the one on 6-mile, and it's been a dramatic life improvement to not have to worry whether it'll take me 5 minutes or 30 minutes to get home from 6-mile and 32.

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Amanda Goldberg

4:40 pm on Thursday, December 6, 2012

They hired workers who were not certified to work on rail lines to begin with so they got shut down by the athourities. Then they had to wait until a certified crew was available to do the job (not until a few months ago). So the road was shut down long enough fo rthem to start ripping it up before they got caught and sat for almost a year before they could get the appropriate workers to come finish the job. MAybe it is on a two year plan. At least 32, Main St., and 3 Mile are open again. How many main streets can one small community block in a years time? A little better planning should be park of the Village concern next time.

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Tansandy

7:23 am on Friday, December 7, 2012

Not true. Here is the news release from April 2012. "The delay comes because the village now has to bid out work for rerouting the railroad tracks around the work site, which sits on 4 Mile Road just west of the Douglas Avenue intersection. That work was going to be done by Union Pacific, once the village had created the earthworks for the tracks to be laid on. But the railroad would not have crews available to do the work until this fall at the earliest.

“We’re not going to be able to build it because we don’t have the manpower,” said Richard Ellison, project coordinator for the railroad.

While Ellison said the reason the railroad didn't have crews available to do the work was due to earlier delays in the project, Hayek said they had an agreement with the railroad that did not specify when they were going to do the work.

Instead, the village is going to bid out work for a private company to reroute the tracks. That process is expected to take two to three months, Hayek said. That’s about the amount of time it will take the village to build the earthworks, he added."
This is something a professional would have recognized when scheduling this project. The Village dropped the ball again!!

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