is there any other way to let you know people would like a follow up story other than facebook liking?

you can email me at denise.lockwood@patch.com

I cannot hear the subject of this interview.

I would like to watch this story, and the follow ups. But the reporter's voice is at like decibel 100 and the interviewee's voice is like at 10. I managed to scare the heck out of my cat this morning with it so loud.

I also would like to embed these videos in our forums at www.armedbadger.com. Since I see the option to share and an option to embed, I would assume this is permitted?

Armed... I'll work on fixing that. And yes... embed away.

Hi guys... I re-edited the video today. Hopefully the sound is better. I'll have another video up tomorrow morning.

Denise

Souds like a good law to me. I used to live in Florida and the bloodbath predicted never materialized. I do not agree with the right on many issues especially the environment, but this is one thing the left has wrong. Everyone has a right to defend themselves. Police can't be everywhere, nor would I want them to be considering the bully mentality we have all seen. I'll protect myself from violence thank you, and do so with a level head. I don't need the government to do it for me. Even though I am an environmentalist we don't need more government, we need less! Get training, everyone should have several hours on the range with an expert instructor.

I would have liked the law to require a psych evaluation also. But those who are unstable are already carrying anyway, along with the criminals. So the law evens the odds for the rest of us.

If I understand correctly, in my case I would not be allowed to carry a weapon to my office or shopping or visiting the park, so there wouldn't be any scenario where I would actually carry it (visiting family, maybe?). Would you just leave it in your car or on your bike when you go to those places?

Public buildings will NOT be prohibited unless specifically enumerated in the law or if they have signs posted. (Even then, criminals will still be armed inside, just like they are now.) But by prohibiting carry, the city or business loses its legal immunity from liability for anything bad that happens because people couldn't defend themselves.

I don't understand all that need for protection. i live in Hudson since late 1983, and went to work into St. Paul every day. I never felt that I needed a gun to protect myself!

I just wonder where all of you hang out that you feel you need a gun?

Big T. I can't remeber that I asked you to protect me!

Ignorance is bliss..............

I am surprised you know what that means BV! Or do you?

Big T, do you carry your weapon to church? Who do you to be protected from there?

Correction:
Big T, do you carry your weapon to church? Who do you need to be protected from there?

Ignorance is bliss..............
Dear computer-
That is a not a duplicate response. It's the correct answer to the above remarks!

Give me one local example of a crime stopped because a citizen was carrying a concealed weapon in the last month!

In the book of Thurston, it is said Blessed are the ignant. I'm feeling safer and more peaceful already. Thanks Big T, I didn't know you cared.

Bob, Thank you! Now at least I know on Nov. 1 MY mattress will be protected from evil doers. http://tinyurl.com/3sbytdm

It can't be a coincidence. Nov. 1st is All Saints Day!

Good morning Patchers.. I'm going to be working on a few follow-up stories on this issue. Do you have any questions you'd like answered?

Yes, I have a question. Wasn't it possible previously for those who really felt the need to carry a weapon for personal protection to apply for a permit before? Why is this new law needed? I will concede SOME people may need to exercise this right. But it seems to me the attitude of this bills supporters is that we should return to the days of Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp.

Why does this woman need a sidearm to protect herself from Gov. Walker? http://tinyurl.com/3s3rxht

Bob - Sturtevant Police Chief Sean Marschke is recommending that CCW not be prohibited in Village Hall. Here's the story: http://patch.com/A-lZnD

Ever notice that with the conservatives it's always about fear? They must be the most frightened people on the planet.

Agreed Professor. If there is no fear, leave it to them to create some. One has to wonder, "What is it the Conservatives, are Conserving?"

Well, I couldn't be happier about this law. Thanksgiving is coming up, and now that I can pack, my family will think twice before they suggest my carrots are underdone as they did last year. Squirrels, think carefully before you approach my birdfeeder. Instead of having to lift the water bottle of discipline, a few shots ricocheting off the walls will remind the cat to stop clawing the shades.

Yes, I'm excited about the new law and we haven't even discussed how helpful guns will be during the morning commute. I really don't like being cut off, do you?

@Thurston,

To answer your question, conservatives are trying to conserve the true values of liberalism. Liberalism is originally defined as freedom from big government or liberated. However, when liberalism started to become synonymous with big government, conservatism was born to conserve the original principles of true liberalism. If you want to know more about this, sign up for any 100 level course at a local college. It will be one of the first things they teach you.

@ Quincy Wagstaff,

Speaking of fear, why is everyone here so afraid to have law abiding citizens carrying a concealed weapon? This type of law has not been a problem in 48 other states.

@Bren,

Your immaturity really shows. You clearly do not know the respect that law abiding citizens have for their firearm, their own safety and the responsibility that goes along with carrying a concealed weapon.

If you are the type that thinks your attempt at humor is funny or anything near reality as to how responsible gun owners behave and act, I guess it is not surprising that you do not have a very good grasp on this issue.

Bren, Now THAT's a POWERFUL argument! :-)

'sha guy,
You know, after I pay my mortgage, utility bills, car insurance, gas for my vehicle, contribute to my IRA, and Health Savings account guess what? No $$$ left from my middle class income for the higher tuition Walker just put into place. Gosh, and I so wanted to learn how being Conservative would make me a truer Liberal.

I find it truly amazing, not long ago I might have considered myself slightly conservative. Now that the extreme right has gone over the cliff, and the center has moved to where intellectual giants like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin stand, I find myself being called a Communist for supporting Social Security. Man, who moved my country?

to Sha guy and others,
you say law abiding citizens will be packing, and i will guess you consdider yourself one of those citizens. do you drive the posted speed limit? if given to much change from a cashier do you give back whats not yours? if you ever bought a used car from a private owner have you worked out a price to put on the tittle so you dont have to pay all the state sales tax? do you stop (complete stop) at a stop sign or roll thru? do you stop (complete stop) on a right on red? have you ever made an ilegal uturn? parked in no prking zone for a "quick trip"? the part that scares me about this law is the lack of training for the gun owner. everyone claims they are going to "protect " themselves from the bad guys. how many of you in your life time so far have needed, not wanted to "protect" themselves with deadly force. the police,and military all have training in situations and continue to train all the time of when and how to shoot safely. how many weekend hunters who think they shoot once a year before deer season that think they are ready? i worry about the guy that gets mad on the highway or the guy that pulls the gun out to "protect" himself and shoots and missis and hits the bystander, myself, my wife or my child. when you carry you take on a huge responsibility of someone elses life. how many of you are going to take any kind of training that the police do to learn when deadly force should be used.

Keith, What is ever more frightening is that these people who disagree so vehemently politically, then inject loaded weapons into an already heated situation. Take the Tea Party Express Tour. A good number of law enforcement officers were present to prevent tempers from getting our of control. What if one of these people felt threatened to the point that they "needed to protect themselves?" This is a ticking time bomb until an incident like this happens. I don't deny that there are people who work in situations that "may" required them to carry a weapon. But why do these people promote this as if it were receiving Communion from the Constitution? They are zealots , creating an armed militia right before our eyes.

Are you worried about the current people who carry guns illegally in our state shooting and missing and hitting an innocent bystanders. Do you ever travel to other states? Are you worried about conceal carry enough to not visit MN, MI, IA, MO, OH, FL, CA or any of the other 48 states that have it?

Your fears are completely unfounded in that there have been none of these issues that you cite in the other 48 states which have conceal carry. Why do the liberals want to take away constitutional rights because they have this fear that WI will be different than all the other states?

Either way, it doesn't really matter because the debate is over and this is going to happen as the law is written. If you don't like the law and are that concerned for you safety, perhaps you can talk to some of the Democratic state senators and find out where some good hotels are in IL... until you can find a new home down there.

In the end the constitution prevails.

I find this discussion really interesting, entertaining and disturbing at the same time. It's interesting how we intertwine our version of sanity and believe everyone operates at that same level, but when someone disagrees with us they must operate at a lesser intelligence.

"I find it truly amazing, not long ago I might have considered myself slightly conservative. Now that the extreme right has gone over the cliff, and the center has moved to where intellectual giants like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin stand, I find myself being called a Communist for supporting Social Security. Man, who moved my country?"

I love this. Very similar to how I feel as well. I used to be much more middle of the road. And now I have almost been pushed into tree hugger, left winged status. So odd. Such extremes in this country and we are almost forced to choose between the extremes of society.

My latest editorial is on this topic. Should be posted today or tomorrow. Hope you like it.

Bren - your first post on this topic - fantastic!! :)

Heather, It's refreshing to find common ground. I'm convinced many, many people would identify themselves as being somewhere in the center. The radical right has moved the political landscape like an earthquake leaving people like you and I wondering what has happened to us, when we really haven't changed but the world around us has. I'm looking forward to your editorial. Also, even though I marked the Racist comment that was removed as objectionable, I almost wish it was left, because it reveals the true sentiments of many Tea Partiers, Faux Constitutionalists, and "Conceal and Carriers". Bigots describes them well.

Just a though concerning the political landscape. The BBC hat a report just a few years ago that analyzed the political right-left orientation in the US. They came to the conclusion that the country moved so far to the right that today's Democrats are to the right of the classic conservative parties in Europe. With other words, the liberals are just a little less to the right than the Tea party, but all are "right wingers" if compared to the British Torys or Wigs!

Since WI is one of the last states to approve conceal and carry, I'd be interested in finding out what the before/after experiences of other states has been. It isn't often that you get a chance to see the actual results of legislation before it's put into effect. This is one of those unique opportunities.

I suppose I could search that out myself, but since we have a couple of [P]atch contributors here who seem interested in the topic, I'd like to see what they come up with.

Excuse me Patchreader 123, I should have used the term Racist instead. If you will reread my words, I said many not all. Patriot's comments just reveals the underlying and often unspoken psychology of the movement.

"Patriot's comments just reveals the underlying and often unspoken psychology of the movement."

Again more stereotyping.

Sometimes stereotypes have a basis in reality patchreader.

I prefer the term "stimulus generalization"!

Hmmm... patchreader 123, by your definition~ perhaps I am a 'bigot' also, as I have no tolerance for ignorant racist rants, either? BTW I did not see any cmmnts by TH3 expressing any of such 'hatred'/ intolerance...? & he didn't generalize~ ^ he referred to "the RADICAL right' & mentioned the revealing of "the true sentiments of MANY Tea-Partiers..."...?

Since you have a Constitutional right to arm yourself, permitted conceal-and-carry actually puts a damper on your Constitutional rights.

Why would liberals be opposed to allowing on to exercise his or her freedom? I generally vote Democratic and consider myself a progressive and I don't really see what the big deal is. People have been getting shot by people carrying illegally conceled weapons for years. I have not doubt that someone with a conceal and carry permit will shoot and kill someone in the heat of the moment. The permit wouldn't protect them from law covering the wrongful death they caused.

Lots of gun packing Whites in western Wisconsin will tell you that conceal and carry is needed because of the ganstas living in Milwaukee...and Minneapolis and St. Paul.

There are racists in the TEA Party and the Republican, Democratic, Libertarian parties. There maybe Muslims in the TEA Party too. Maybe even gays and transgender persons. There's also rich people in the Democratic Party and gun owners too. Why I bet there are even progressive liberals who voted straight Democratic tickets last fall who will get conceal and carry permits.

These issues aren't always black and white.

I

A 2010 UW political science study of the then-nascent Tea Party found that race was an issue with at least some of its adherents. (Info Link: http://firedoglake.com/2010/04/09/new-university-of-washington-study-tea-party-simmers-with-racial-resentment/). I'm trying to find the name of a re-published and updated study recently reviewed on MSNBC that now includes data about the Tea Party. When the Party originally formed, it was said to be independents tired of the political status-quo. I mentioned this study because the update proved that most Tea Partiers were not independents. They were former far-right Republicans who believed that their party was not doing enough to bring religion into government, etc. I'll post the title when I find it.

This explains much.

@Jim Bob,

Per our constitutional rights an individual is still allowed to open carry a weapon without any type of permit or training. I agree that there is really no need for training and a permit to simply put on a coat to cover a holstered weapon.

And now for something completely different: Admittedly off topic. A 3 year old take on what's wrong with Gov. Scott Walker. No doubt influenced by his parents so save that rant far right gun toting classic liberals. http://youtu.be/iN2NNgvCbb4

patchreader123:
"You can continue to play your games if it amuses you."
I will, because it does amuse me even though you are directing this at the Professor

Sometimes the only way to fight stupid is with humor.
Now to be serious, I agree with you. I have my biases and and I expressed them , as Patriot did, however I believe in a less offensive way. What I should have said, is what Bren has said. There is considerable evidence of racial bias among Tea Party Members. Please read the opening lines of this study: http://firedoglake.com/2010/04/09/new-university-of-washington-study-tea-party-simmers-with-racial-resentment

I really dont care about tea party or Rep. or Dems. i would have hoped this would stay on target. first you never did tell me about your law abiding life. lets look at the 2nd admendment as it is written "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." written in 1787 the US had no army to defend its self from attack from a froigen land. they needed some type of army or as they called it a militia, being necessary to the security of a free state. dont have an army to relliy on, they needed the citizens to stand up and be that army at that time. the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. that was to tell king george that his army could not take away our weapons that we own to defend our country. as the admendment states. you have to look at the whole admendment as it is written and when it was written just like proabition it was passed then repealled. now its 2011 we have the best army in the world that nobody can argue with. do we still need the guns for our Militia? an for those of you on here who tell me if i dont like it i can leave, F.U. this is my country as much as it is yours i may not like your ideas or your beliefs on this or any matter, you have the right to voice them and i would defend you, your right to do that. as i would hope you being an American would defend my rights as well.

OK, When you say positive and Tea Party in the same breath, you lost me. The manufactured "debt crisis" had nothing positive about it. It was positively ludicrous. The only aim of the Tea Part in that matter was to embarrass Obama and further their agenda of making him a 1 term Black President.

just did a search on deaths from C&C clevland ohio:
Matthew Warmus, 25, of Uniontown, was indicted last week in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court on an aggravated murder charge in the death of David Williams Jr. According to police, Warmus shot Williams, a 27-year-old parking lot attendant from Maple Heights, three times after they fought over where Warmus could park in a lot at East Ninth Street and Sumner Court. Warmus was downtown for a Cavs game. Both men had their guns. Police said Williams did not fire his weapon.

What's wrong with being racist? Maybe racists are like gays. They are born that way. Maybe its their environment? How do people become conservatives or liberals? It's like denying parade permits to the KKK and Nazis, because you don't like want they stand for. This is America my firends. Freedom of speech reins supreme. You don't have to like what I say. Jesus said not to keep you light under a basket and I say don't try to hide darkness with regulations, laws and permits. We are all racists to some degree.

Mary Harris, It is wrong to be a racist. You also my be correct that we are all racists to some degree. That is too much for many people to accept.

" It's like denying parade permits to the KKK and Nazis, because you don't like want they stand for."
And when has this happened? Please cite when and back it up with a link; otherwise it's just more teapotty "They're takin' away our freedoms" claptrap.

Professor, I believe in the Early 80s the ACLU went to court in favor of granting parade permits to Neo Nazi's in the Chicago area. This is one reason the ACLU is so unpopular. The defend the principle of freedom of speech even to those who they vehemently disagree with the ACLU.

I don't think you are ever going to see Tea Partiers defending the freedom of Gays to have a Gay Pride parade.

This little Tike aims to teach Governor Walker a lesson he should have learned years ago. http://youtu.be/iN2NNgvCbb4

To all the dreamers who think guns do not stop crimes:

http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/

Vigilantism is nothing new!

Thurston Howell III
5:25am on Friday, September 16, 2011

Vigilantism is nothing new!

An no less effective.......

LOL, Another victim of the economic downturn! http://thearmedcitizen.com/wp/category/armed

REAL Vet.. In a country or 300 Million citizens, this is all you got?
http://thearmedcitizen.com/wp/category/armed/page/2
But thanks for providing at least some examples.

"Saying guns kill people is like saying spoons made America gain weight"

Until America loathing buffoons stop with their Communist ideology, we will have to deal with it I suppose...sigh.

Until you have lived ina country where Martial law is imposed, and citizens have no way to defend themselves, until you have witnessed 1st hand the Killing Fields, or the Congo, or Sierra Leone, ( I HAVE ) your opinion is nothing.

Take away guns you idiot, and only the cops and government and criminals have them? Like they say, a Conservative is nothing more than a Liberal who was mugged a day before the election.

Booze kills more people per year than guns do, as do cars and diebets, and ehart disease. You gonna oputlaw those too? In fact...doctors kill more people per year than guns do, maybe we should get rid of those too while we are instituting your Marxist Nation? If you do not like the Constitution ehre, you are still free to flee to Yemen or Iran or Syria where you can enjoy not owning a gun wghile the government runs roughshod over you. I'll even help with the ticket Ivan....

I like this one... http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/phoenix/man-shoots-intruder-1-28-2011
Thanks for the link.

REAL Vet.. In a country or 300 Million citizens, this is all you got?

No, there are many such sites if you decide to ever read anything other than Al Gore or CNN ( Communist news Network ) or the Manifesto.....I simply have a JOB and WORK unlike the vast majority of Liberal voters who want that free society paid for by others while they argue philosophy and prance around like Plato and his buddies just before Greece fell to Rome. Why? Greeks refuused to fight, and the Romans had swords...wow, what a concept!

I knew I was a Communist when I started supporting Soc. Sec. sigh! I have no fear though, I've heard through the grapevine that Obama will execute his plan to confiscate all 300 plus million guns in this country before Conceal and Carry goes into affect on Nov.1st.

Here's the funny thing Mr. Vet. I conceded way back in this discussion that some people do require a gun for their personal safety. What I object to is people like you Evangelizing about it. I don't need to become a gun worshiper thank you.

Nope, I do NOT carry. I stand 6' 3" and weigh 155 and stay in good condition. I don't need a gun to swat a fly. I take more pleasure in doing some things by hand Ivan. Knocking stupid people through walls is one of them. Especially Communist ones. Now go away...shoo....flee to the Middle East where you will be happy living under the government.

Why Not Carry big guy? Remember you need that law right?

Yeah, years of miliitary service during the Cold War, wouldn't know a thing. You need to sit down and drink a nice hot cup of Shut UP. Alligator mouth and a bluejay body....perhaps its best that you let people continue to think you are an idiot than to keep opening your trap and proving them correct. Bye bye Ivan...your Gulag Brainwashing is a bit to much to overcome by logic. Spew as you wish.....I have no more to say to a buffoon.

I sit in front of the television and shudder at the thought of one of these creationism-loving, global-warming-denying, immigration-bashing, Social-Security-cutting, clean-air-hating, mortality-fascinated, Wall-Street-protecting Republicans running my country.” ~ James Carville

Hey Patriot, You can't hide. Roberta BLACK wrote this song, plus this video even had BLACK people in it. http://youtu.be/kqstF4V4Nl4 I declare today September 16, 2011 as BLACK Friday here on the Patch ;-)

Thanks for fixing the audio.

You know criminals carry guns and use them--no matter what the law says. What's the big deal of law abiding citizens carrying guns? Most states have this already.
Wait a minute...did Suzi Link comment on this? If not, disregard my comment because I only comment on things she comments on. Serious! BTW, love the nicknames on this...

Bren@ your ability to copy and paste is very impressive. http://www.americanhistorycentral.com/entry.php?rec=479&view=external-links

One of my DD214's read "Sharpshooter Award" in box #14 but does not SPECIFICALLY say "Pistol" [could be interpreted to mean "rifle" instead].

Will this documentation still qualify for DOJ authorization, do you think?

Concealed carry has a major impact on Wisconsin employers as well. My company's actually hosting a webinar on Oct. 12th about how your company policy should (or shouldn't) change depending on your situation. Sign up here if you're interested: http://hni.com/concealed-carry-employers/

Stop making this a color thing, it's not or at least it wasn't until those folks made it one.
I may or may not carry when it becomes legal and it's not because I fear someones color, it's because I fear those that feel they have the right to take by force that which I have worked so hard my whole life for (including mine or my families life).
Drop color from this discussion and see where it goes.

Someone said that everyone has a right to defend themselves. Further, that we don't need more police to do defend us. I dont want to be around that person when he or she is "defending" themselves. I dont really trust their training to be sufficient to qualify to be "safe" in public in a gun battle. Are people joking? Do they think its easy to as much as hit someone in a crisis situation when threatened or shot at...let alone hit them accurately enough to stop the gunfire? Further...are these good citizens going to assure us that they are concerned about the bystanders as well..that while they are defending their rights...they are also honoring our right not to be shot when they miss who they are shooting at? My god...its like listening to a bunch of school age boys ramped up on some violent film they have just seen. I wish some people with personal experience in urban combat would speak up and enlighten us just as to how intelligent it is to have everyone armed.