The Wisconsin Delegation is getting ready to go to the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte North Carolina.
We'll be posting from Charlotte here on Patch, bringing readers reports directly from the delegates and the different activities and events. Stay tuned!
Steve ®
1:36 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Hope and Change part II
James R Hoffa
2:03 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
It'll be interesting to see if the Dems have anything to offer other than class-warfare and erroneously trashing the Republican opposition.
My guess is NOT!
Keith Schmitz
7:10 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Don't worry Jimmy. We know you wouldn't recognize else wise even if it hit you in the face.
On to Charlotte. Too bad the GOP sought to spew their garbage and lies this week when we have a chance to come back at it this week. Enjoy your two point bounce for Mittenstein and Eddie. You'll be saying good bye to it at the end this week.
Ed Willing
12:00 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
This election will be a landslide. Americans are tired of these folks.
Keith.... the RNC was turning folks away because of crowd control. The DNC is no longer selling tickets to the convention. They're giving them away. ;) lol
Randy1949
12:09 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Part of me hopes you're right, Edward. Just for the joy of seeing you mean-spirited Conservative types get to have your noses rubbed in what four to eight more years of GOP-TEA policies will do to this country. Mexico will have to build a wall to keep us out.
James R Hoffa
12:24 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Schmitzy -
Romney will win Florida while Obama will lose North Carolina.
GearHead
5:06 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@ Randy: Us concervative-types are a pretty happy gang. But for mean spiritedness, tune into the Democrat convention. This should help clear up your confusion.
Taoist Crocodile
2:36 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
The DNC is combing through its rolodex right now, trying to come up with a "surprise guest" who can carry on a cranky, rambling, odd and pathetically dottering dialogue with a piece of furniture. That's the only way we'll win this thing...
How does Gary Busey vote? Busey with a La-Z-Boy, that would probably be on par with Eastwood's humiliating RNC performance
James R Hoffa
3:36 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Considering that Busey said on The Celebrity Apprentice that he'd vote Donald Trump for President, I'm guessing that he's backing Romney.
You'll have to stick with one of your mainstays such as Rosanne Bar, Michael Moore, Kathy Griffin, etc!
Randy1949
10:34 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Hey, I hear Randy Quaid is looking for work.
Ima Hippee
10:53 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
Tao - no problem, you already have the insipid Joe Biden. Rumor has it, they might let him out of the Obama man cave next week. Joe has been hanging out there with Al Gore.
Keith Schmitz
7:11 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Hey ImaNazi, love the way the numbskullery denigrates Biden, which make him a secret weapon. The guy is a tremendous stir stick for the Democratic base.
Bob McBride
8:05 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
...as long as he can keep from stirring everyone up with this kind of stuff...
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/joebiden/a/bidenisms.htm
If they're smart, they'll insist on a tape delay any time he's at the podium and limit the number of free-form interviews he partakes in, if any.
FBSport
9:45 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
How about Alec Baldwin? He's been known to say some Inspirational things to young people (remember his message to his daughter?). BTW, is his daughter older than his new wife?
GearHead
9:46 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Schmitz: Biden, the secret weapon? Setting the bar kinda low, aren't we?
mau
10:39 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Ima, my thoughts exactly. No need for a secret speaker when they have Biden.
@Keith, you just used your own statement within the statement "Hey ImaNazi, love the way the numbskullery denigrates Biden, which make him a secret weapon." I guess using the names "Mittenstein and Eddie". don't denigrate Romney and Ryan.
gg
9:57 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
DNC/Obama=doom & gloom
Keith Schmitz
7:13 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
You're off by one administration. The Great White Hope won't do the job for you despite the millions that will be spent on GOP lies.
James R Hoffa
12:58 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Schmitzy -
Constantly resorting to racism makes you the lowest common denominator!
John Feia
12:16 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Great organizational skills. Instead of showing a great biographical video leading into Romney's speech, they have an un-vetted, disrespectful comedy routine followed by a speech that says how great I am and oh yeah, vote for Romney. All this in national prime time national television. Thank you RNC!
Keith Schmitz
7:13 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Insight into the kind of job Mittenstein would do if president. Europe should have been a no brainer and he couldn't even handle that.
Evjen Rattara
12:18 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
You have only 2 choices. Iam voting for Chief Foley, he's my man..
Micheal Foley
12:52 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Thanks, but I'm not running for office. I respectfully decline your nomination.
mainstreet
1:43 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Exactly. Two choices is so sad........
mainstreet
1:46 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
BTY... was there a getting ready to go to Tampa thread here or did I miss that one?
mainstreet
1:52 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Apologies Micheal. Didn't realize this was a blog and not an article, I can do that! Have a great weekend bty........
Bob McBride
7:51 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
No doubt the DPW will be greeted in NC with great fanfare and accolades for the bang-up job they did turning back the clock on the 2010 elections and removing Scott Walker from office.
James R Hoffa
12:22 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
I heard they had special parking spots reserved just for Tate, Zielinski, Barrett, Falk, and Feingold in the parking lot of a redneck gas station in the neighboring South Carolina!
GearHead
8:15 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Maybe they'll look to Harrisburg for the national fiscal model. Are you listening Mr. Dickert?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/08/31/160379247/inside-americas-most-indebted-city?sc=tw
Stormy Weather
9:28 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Clint Eastwood: "When someone isn’t doing the job, we’ve got to let him go"
Randy1949
9:31 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
There goes most of Congress.
John Feia
1:27 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Mike
Yeah it is hilarious to disrespect a sitting President with vulgarities and images of slitting his throat. I don't care what political affiliation a President has, that type of behavior is simply wrong!
GearHead
5:09 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@ John: Where was your outrage over 8 years of "comics" wanting to assasinate GW? Hippocrate!
Stormy Weather
9:32 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Taoist Crocodile - We'll keep Clint and you can have Michael Moore, Rosie, Joy Behar, Sandra Fluke, Sean Penn, etc.
Carbon Bigfuut
9:54 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Not that the Republicans want him, but Michael Moore has already given up on Obama.
Stormy Weather
9:38 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
If you care about our country, go see the movie (2016 - Obama's America). Then talk to everyone you know about how important it is to vote for the Romney/Ryan ticket.
mau
10:44 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
So where is the media coverage of these lovely liberal hollywood ladies with their hateful tweets.
Barkin mad: Actress hopes hurricane kills ‘every pro-life’ SOB; Cher hopes Akin gets raped
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/barkin-mad-actress-hopes-hurricane-kills-every-pro-life-sob-cher-hopes-akin
Stormy Weather
10:49 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Thanks Mike! Have any of you looked at some of the people scheduled to speak at their convention? It's laughable!
http://www.demconvention.com/speakers/
Rahm Emanuel
Barney Frank
Obama Campaign Co-Chair Eva Longoria
Nancy Pelosi
Gwen Moore
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Sandra (please supply my birth control) Fluke
Yep... We will keep Clint Eastwood!
Randy1949
10:56 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Maybe they'll take up George Takei's offer to address an empty Romney chair in a shut-down factory.
Stormy Weather
11:02 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@ Randy - Try as you can, you won't top Clint! I'm quite sure 82 year old Clint could wipe the floor with Pelosi, Gwen Moore and birth control Fluke!
Randy1949
11:14 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Maybe you should use a different metaphor than 'wipe the floor', considering he's a man and they're all women.
I would humbly submit Harrison Ford, who tries not to be political but leans liberal on environmental issues.
Stormy Weather
11:05 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
And how about President Obama's speech to the troops yesterday? I don't think they like him very much! http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/31/obama-speech-to-soldiers-met-with-silence/
SkinnyDude
11:21 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
The party of division and hate will give a lot of speeches about what other programs we need and how capitalism is bad and welfare is good. BLAH BLAH BLAH ....there wont be a peep about the failures of the last 4 years. Unfortunately, More of the same is not a plan. I predict low ratings cause most Americans have already tuned out this President and those that take a peek wont stay too long before they walk closer to the Romney /Ryan plan . Afterall a plan to restore America is a lot better than to accept its decline under Obama.
J. B. Schmidt
11:34 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
DNC 2012 - The Future of Segregation
http://www.demconvention.com/speakers/caucuses-and-councils/
I love how each race, gender, ethnicity, age and income group gets its own room. Obviously the party of unity.
James R Hoffa
12:15 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
That's a little freaky!
Yup, those Dems love their closed doors smoke filled back rooms where they come up with their plans to destroy America for the good of all to benefit their select special interests.
SkinnyDude
12:16 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
J.B.
They need to expand the VICTIM file as that is their Base. Herd the sheep and put them in pen and feed them fantasies over solutions.
John Feia
1:15 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@ Hoffa
Like a Yacht commissioned in the Cayman Islands filled with 500K & up donors?
James R Hoffa
1:44 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
Whatever they're doing, they're doing it on their own time and dime.
Unlike Obama and his Tim Burton and Johnny Depp hosted Alice in Wonderland party at the WH, that cost taxpayers a cool $3M at the height of the Great Recession! But hey, it's Obama - he deserved to blow $3M of our money on a personal luxurious extravagance while millions were losing their jobs and suffering just to put food on the table, right?
So you tell me, who's the one that's truly out of touch with reality here?
J. B. Schmidt
3:21 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Skinny and Hoffa
On Monday and Wednesday between 10-12, the Blacks, Indians and Hispanics are all meeting in their separate rooms; while at the same time the ethnic council is meeting in a different room. Who makes up the ethnic council if the ethnic people are in different rooms?
Would it be inappropriate to assume this is where the white men of the Democratic Party decide who to best use the other ethnic caucuses as pawns during this election year?
John Feia
4:12 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Hoffa, It was your choice of words: "Yup, those Dems love their closed doors smoke filled back rooms where they come up with their plans to destroy America for the good of all to benefit their select special interests." that directly relate to my yacht comment. How does an Alice in Wonderland party correlate here? If you want to talk wasteful dollars, how much does it cost to go skinny dipping in the Sea of Galilee while on a strictly partisan "informational" trip?
James R Hoffa
5:37 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
And where did Hoffa ever assert that such meetings were publicly funded?
But you did affirmatively assert that that the yacht excursion was publicly funded. Please provide your proof - or admit that you were LYING about this.
The point is that Hoffa doesn't care how the Repubs or the Dems spend their own money and time, but find the Dems use of their time and money under such circumstances as described in JB's link as being dubious.
What Hoffa does have a problem with is Obama spending our money, during the height of the Great Recession, to throw himself a luxury party at the WH!
It shows that not only is Obama out of touch with reality, but that he also has no regard in how he spends our money on himself! He has proven to be a poor steward of our dollars and as someone that make poor decisions because, quite frankly - he just doesn't care! Otherwise, he would have apologized for the party.
SkinnyDude
9:29 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@ J. B. Schmidt
Divide and conquer is the plan. But minorities and everyone else they put in separate rooms surely cant be excited to unite and support the failures and false promises of Obama's 4 years. I think Obama has only 2 minorites in his entire cabinet. That's hardly an endorsement of any true belief in minorities he would rather control than give them the opportunities to grow. Sad but True .
AWD
11:49 am on Saturday, September 1, 2012
I was reading about the DNC Convention line up, what is it with the Democrat Party’s obsession with Islam? Has Islam ever done any good for anyone or anything? Could this obsession come from our President Hussein Obama? Or could it be the DNC’s love of anything that is non-traditional American? Radical Islam, gay marriage, support of the Occupy freaks, illegal immigration, it all falls into a pattern; Democrats just don’t like the culture and values that made America a once-great country. In fact, they seem to embrace anything that goes against the taxpaying, hard-working American people. On November 6th the Democrat Party must be annihilated politically. Democrats want nothing to do with baseball and apple pie and they have royally screwed up Chevrolet.
John Feia
12:12 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Nothing tops a birther bigot...
James R Hoffa
12:13 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
That's actually a pretty good summary of what the Party has turned into over the last 4 years.
John Feia
12:23 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
" Democrats want nothing to do with baseball and apple pie and they have royally screwed up Chevrolet."
You sound like the guy who complained about the life guard for saving him from drowning...
Stormy Weather
12:00 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
AWD - You are right! This is why we need to tell everyone about Dinesh D'Souza's movie: 2012 - Obama's America.
If you care about our Country, you need to see this movie!
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/08/31/conservative-documentary-film-2016-obama-america-poised-to-surpass-al-gore/
John Feia
12:15 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Eastwood and D'Souza, yay someone in hollywood is on your side!!! Did you know that Clint is pro-choice and pro gay marriage?
Stormy Weather
12:52 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia - Doesn't bother me, because as an American... Clint has a right to different views. I used to be pro choice when I was younger (That was probably the Planned Parenthood effect on me). And then one day, I woke up and realized what they were actually doing to the babies.
James R Hoffa
1:39 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
Thank you for pointing out how the Republicans truly are a Party of inclusion of multiple viewpoints on social issues, unlike the Sandra Flukeian Democrats!
James R Hoffa
12:18 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
After the ratings juggernaut that was the RNC, the real losers here are going to be the broadcast and cable networks that decide to cover the DNC in primetime, and the poor unfortunates that actually tune-in and waste hours of their lives that they won't be able to ever get back!
John Feia
12:26 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
The ratings for Honey Boo Boo doubled the ratings for the RNC on Wed. I guess It was tough for the like minded demographic to decide...
John Feia
12:45 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
I personally watched almost all of the RNC coverage. While I disagreed with mostly all of it, I didn't feel that trying to understand what the opposing views are and why they have been manifested was a waste of my hours. Its unfortunate that you seem to feel it a waste of hours to try and comprehend the macro political environment involved with this election...
Michael Schwister
12:55 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
I am looking forward to the DNC to see if they are going to follow the lead of the RNC and provide us with factually challenged non issues.
James R Hoffa
1:36 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
After watching Barrett debate Walker twice, while failing to come up with any plan/ideas of his own on both occasions, I've pretty much given up on the Democrats having any cognizable message of their own.
Their entire strategy is to trash their opponent while offering nothing unique.
Romney offers a detailed 57 point plan on his website. Have you read his entire plan or viewed the entirety of his website? Hoffa has viewed ALL of Obama's website, and by comparison, there's nothing there - it's full of generalizations, non-specific assessments, and little else. After four years of doing the job and Obama can't give us something a little more specific? You've got to be kidding me!
And Obama has already proven that he can't be trusted to tell the truth to voters. Remember these beauties:
My health care plan will NOT contain a mandate. I will not raise taxes on the middle/working classes. I will end the wars on day one. I will close Gitmo. Etc.
The guy buys votes with bold faced LIES - and he's trying to do it again!
I've already wasted enough of my time/life waiting for the Dems to offer something truthful and substantive. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
Hoffa will not be fooled by the Dems again - they've already taken enough of my time and treasure and wasted it!
John Feia
4:02 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Hoffa
I applaud you if you read all of the 150+ pages in Romney's plan. When you say that the plan is "detailed", can you point out where in the plan the "detailed" specifics are about how the proposed tax cuts are going to be paid for? You can't just say that because the plan will succeed, they will pay for themselves.
James R Hoffa
4:20 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
The information you request would be found in the section entitled 'Spending.' The web summary of that part of the plan can be found here:
http://www.mittromney.com/issues/spending
Can you see how Romney proposes "a smaller, simpler, smarter government?"
When the government spends less, it needs less revenues to operate. That's a pretty simple concept - I'm surprised that you guys on the left have such a hard time with it. Therefor, tax breaks do not necessarily need to be 'paid for,' as you call it.
The problem with you guys on the left is that you are always using an unrealistic baseline upon which to assess everything. Not to mention that as taxes go down, the economy will expand, and even though everyone will be paying less into the government, prosperity means that the base will expanded and thus revenues will actually go up. We've seen this happen before, lest you forget.
But please, keep on ignoring reality and cling to your belief that the government needs to be ginormous and wiping everyone's asses for them.
The repeal of Obamacare, also a part of Romney's plan, will also eliminate all of the new spending and taxes that are found within that piece of worthless legislation!
John Feia
4:38 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Tax breaks do not need to be paid for? When the extension of the payroll tax cuts came up, that is all the the GOP kept saying.
James R Hoffa
4:53 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
The payroll tax cuts can be extended if you allowed people to opt out of Medicare and SS, which is a part of the GOP plan/philosophy.
The investment component of SS is nothing but a fraud anyway. The money in the SS fund doesn't make any money for the people paying into and benefiting from the program - it merely taxes people even more under a different name, the federal income tax.
Wake up and start thinking for yourself!
John Feia
5:03 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Think for yourself? Again? You need a new line. Look at the recent history. That wasn't the GOP's position when the debate for extension of the cuts were happening.
James R Hoffa
5:12 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
Hoffa thinks for himself - not what the GOP tells him to think!
John Feia
4:19 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
@Hoffa
"After the ratings juggernaut that was the RNC,"
Here is your juggernaut statistics:
"All told, just over 20 million people were watching last night on the Nielsen-rated networks, compared to 37 million for night two of the RNC in 2008. Night one of the 2012 RNC was roughly on par with night one of the 2008 RNC ratings-wise, making the gap all the more dramatic."
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/08/30/quickie-tv-ratings-for-rnc-convention-networks-lose-17-million-viewers-vs-2008/
Nice fact based analysis on your part...
James R Hoffa
6:23 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
@ John Feia -
TV viewership in general is down, something that your linked analysis doesn't mention a word about.
Let's wait to compare to the DNC convention ratings number, shall we?
A current Yahoo! poll shows that nearly 70% of respondents do not plan to watch any of the DNC convention. I predict ultra low ratings numbers, that in comparison to the RNC numbers, will prove the RNC convention to be the true juggernaut of the two conventions.
tom munson
1:31 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Obama is Americas Imaginary Friend, Clint was right
CentralScrutinizer
4:18 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia...what was worst...the skinney dipping in the sea of Galilee or Obamas own secret service doing hookers in Columbia?
John Feia
4:36 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Neither, they were both unacceptable. My point to Hoffa was meant to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. He spoke of potential back room deals at the up coming DNC and I spoke of a yacht excursion for donors at the RNC. To which he responded to with the cost of a White House function. The skinny dipping is irrelevant, the cost of a publicly fund partisan trip is.
James R Hoffa
4:39 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
The yacht excursion you speak of was publicly funded? Please provide your proof of this.
And yes, the $3M Alice in Wonderland party that Obama threw for himself at the WH was funded by our tax dollars!
John Feia
4:41 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Are the not yet occurring back room deals you say that will happen next week publicly funded?
James R Hoffa
4:47 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
When did Hoffa ever assert that? He didn't. However you did make an affirmative assertion which you've failed to back up which makes you little more than a stooge!
Get a life and start thinking for yourself!
John Feia
4:57 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Start thinking for myself? I'm not the one who refers to myself as a pseudonym in a third person manner. I actually put my real name out there attached to my comments. I'm curious as to what unconfirmed assertion it is that I made. I have noticed that you do make some well thought out points but name calling really diminishes them.
James R Hoffa
5:01 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
Hoffa asked you to provide the link showing that the yacht excursion you speak of was publicly funded, as you previously asserted, and you failed to do so and instead asked me a question.
I'll give you one more chance. Please provide the link showing that the yacht excursion you speak of was publicly funded.
John Feia
5:21 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Hoffa
I never said it was. Here are my posts on this topic that prompted you to call me a stooge:
1."Like a Yacht commissioned in the Cayman Islands filled with 500K & up donors?"
2." It was your choice of words: "Yup, those Dems love their closed doors smoke filled back rooms where they come up with their plans to destroy America for the good of all to benefit their select special interests." that directly relate to my yacht comment. How does an Alice in Wonderland party correlate here? If you want to talk wasteful dollars, how much does it cost to go skinny dipping in the Sea of Galilee while on a strictly partisan "informational" trip?"
3. "Neither, they were both unacceptable. My point to Hoffa was meant to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. He spoke of potential back room deals at the up coming DNC and I spoke of a yacht excursion for donors at the RNC. To which he responded to with the cost of a White House function. The skinny dipping is irrelevant, the cost of a publicly fund partisan trip is."
4.Are the not yet occurring back room deals you say that will happen next week publicly funded?
Can you point out where I asserted that the yacht excursion was publicly funded? I'm kind of embarrassed that I am responding to your "last chance" ultimatum but sometimes it is necessary to defend comments that I attach to my "real" name. This is getting a little too juvenile for me...
James R Hoffa
5:50 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
"the cost of a publicly fund partisan trip is."
Hoffa thought that you were referring to the yacht excursion with the quoted passage. However, Hoffa now realizes that you were just misinformed about Yoder - probably because you limit your resources to the Daily Kos and MSNBC.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/yoder-apologizes-for-skinny-dipping/2012/08/20/a295067c-eaea-11e1-866f-60a00f604425_blog.html
"Last August, he went skinny-dipping in the Sea of Galilee while on a private fact-finding tour sponsored by the American Israel Education Foundation."
Last Hoffa checked, the AIEF is not funded by the federal government. Hoffa thought that you were aware of this FACT, and thus presumed that such quoted passage must have been in reference to the yacht excursion.
Sorry, but Hoffa was thrown off by the mis-information that you attempted to peddle. Next time, please get your facts straight and such confusion can be avoided!
James R Hoffa
5:56 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
BTW - Perhaps if you admit that you were wrong about the funding involved in Yoder's trip, it would go a long way as far as respect and credibility on these boards go!
Just trying to help you out!
John Feia
6:43 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Thanks for your help... I may have been misinformed about the funding source of the AIEF but if you try and say that there were no government expenditures involved with this trip you are fooling yourself.
Never the less the only reason I brought it up was because of you strangely bringing up a White House Halloween party that was totally unrelated to the topic of comparing back room meetings by both parties.
You like to spew out to anyone who has a differing opinion than yours to think for themselves, I do think for myself. I don't need to cite an alter ego to state my opinion. My opinion is what is is and is based on so much more than I believe you can fathom. The last thing I am looking to do is gain respect and credibility from a person whose lack of respect for others demeans his own credibility. I'm really not interested in what Hoffa will say Hoffa thinks about this.
James R Hoffa
7:29 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@John Feia -
"I may have been misinformed about the funding source of the AIEF but if you try and say that there were no government expenditures involved with this trip you are fooling yourself."
Hoffa prefers to work off facts as opposed to mere speculation, supposition, and conjecture, so if you could kindly provide a link, that would be great!
Looks like someone was upset because they were wrong!
But hey, if you want to compare back room meetings, then let's do so!
Was the yacht excursion segregated by age, race, nationality, ethnicity, etc, like the Dem back room meeting is schedule to be according to JB's link?
John Feia
4:04 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
@Hoffa
You once again avoid the point and purpose of my post. Not surprising but at least you are consistent.
James R Hoffa
6:30 pm on Monday, September 3, 2012
@John Feia -
You mentioned a yacht excursion, that in all reality was a campaign/fund raising function as opposed to being an official part of the RNC convention, in comparison to discriminatory caucuses scheduled to take place as an official part of the upcoming DNC convention.
You're right - I don't see the point that your trying to make because you're comparing apples to oranges.
Obama also has exclusive closed doors campaign fund raising functions - like his little dinner parties with George Clooney, Wall Street money men, etc.
The fact of the matter is that you can't compare apples to apples in this instance because the GOP did not do anything like what the discriminating/segregating Dems are about to do in Charlotte!
Message from the GOP - we are all ONE country!
Message from the Dems - we discriminate/segregate people by race, age, ethnicity, gender, etc.
The messages are clear.
Mike Knight
6:52 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Fake liberal hope and change ready to fool more of the masses. Too bad the liberal voters don't realize that the Democrats are corporatist frauds just as the Republican are. However the Democrats are generally three times as destructive so going with the Republicans is the lesser of two evils. They should be voting for a real liberal party like the Green Party just as the conservatives should be voting for Libertarians or Constitution Party candidates.
James R Hoffa
7:31 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
@Mike Knight -
You're absolutely right. It's unfortunate that more people don't see it that way.
Evjen Rattara
7:16 pm on Saturday, September 1, 2012
Chief Foley, "I did not have sexual relations with that women." or my favorite and yours "could you define the word is?" You gotta love Bubba....
Micheal Foley
11:06 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
What do those quotes have to do with anything now?
Tansandy
6:03 am on Sunday, September 2, 2012
I thought the liars club met in Burlington????? Silly me!
Richard Head
6:11 pm on Sunday, September 2, 2012
"The Poster"
Youth unemployment remains high, with 18-24 year olds facing unemployment over 15%. In a poll conducted by Crossroads Generation of 800 registered voters aged 18-29, only 22% said that they thought Obama had put into place policies that have made it easier for young people to find jobs. We can do better. Join us at http://crossroadsgeneration.com
Obama is outta here! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6yD43OrcjDI
tom munson
4:45 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Demonstrators Take to the Streets of Charlotte
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/03/us/politics/protesters-gather-in-charlotte-for-democratic-convention.html
tom munson
5:00 am on Monday, September 3, 2012
Coalition Stages Historic Charlotte March Before DNC Convention
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/02/charlotte-dnc-protest_n_1850974.html
Keith Best
5:27 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
lil' boy Mikey Tate and his sidekick Gramey Zee are the gifts that keep on giving.
I hope they continue their actions and their rants for years to come.